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[–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

There is plenty of housing currently in Western countries, it's just not being made available to those in need. That won't change with lower birthrate, it will stay not available to them. It can only change with system change where no one can hoard insane billion amounts of $ € ¥ numbers on their screen or have thousands of homes as their belongings.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Definitely a lot of corporations turning homes to rentals but if there are fewer people to rent those houses, it’s not as lucrative an investment and with a surplus of homes, there’s more opportunity for people to buy them. I get what you’re saying tho. They have all the power to turn any situation in their favor.

[–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

In some situations they'll rather have empty houses than rent it out to the poorest people for lower prices. Or actively destroy ("upgrade") affordable housing to keep prices of the rest up. And if the prices do really go down a lot it's still poors with mortgages but suddenly no more enough income selling their places for bargain prices to the ultra rich for whom even in a real estate crisis with crashed prices it's all still just a game situation, not a food on the table one. They use it to gobble up even more.

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah, speaking from the american perspective on population and housing... The 'war on immigrants' (which I'm amazed the clown in chief hasn't started using) is a farce. It fucks up lives, and the rich still pull in more desperate immigrants. It's not about actually lowering the amount of immigrants in the country, its about tossing red meat to their dumb voters, and putting a pervasive fear into anyone who would dare to ask for better working conditions. If ever the population fell enough for the rich to feel any squeeze, they'd just stop patrolling the border as much, conduct slightly less enforcement of visa overstays, and the population would rise just enough.

As for the housing, they'd love to keep buying up residences and turning them into rentals. Folks might die and pass them onto children, but how many of those inheriting the house can suddenly move into it and use it as their primary residence?