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[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nope, but he's popular and polls extremely well.

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Checks the room... Uhhh polls extremely well just like Kamala did.

When you push forward a nonviable candidate and insist voters love them, you don't then get to blame the same voters for not voting for them, especially when they keep telling you "we don't want him"

And no, better them Trump is not a good enough reason to vote for him (if you get to vote at all, let's not kid ourselves and pretend elections will happen like normal).

[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Okay I'll vote for someone who polls poorly. Seems like a winning strategy.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think you misunderstand statistics and polls. You shouldnt be making conclusions based on them. All you are saying is you want the most likely chance to be "right".

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They're probably like me and just want the most likely chance to "decelerate the frantic march of fascism".

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

deceleration is not enough by a country mile.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Gotta slow down before you stop. Once we're stopped, then we can talk about reversing course. You ever try to pull a u-turn without slowing down?

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Thats not how changing minds works.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

And if we haven't made any significant headway on that front for the past century, how exactly do you plan to do that in the current election cycle? What method of changing minds are you planning to use to accomplish that?

An imperfect plan today beats a perfect plan 10 years from now. Slowing down is better than speeding up.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Nothing shows people how wrong they are than by giving them exactly what they asked for. I dont think trump is gaining popularity.

Now how to change people in america from greed and selfishness? Need more than 4 years as we simply need older generations to die off naturally and take their ideas with them.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Nothing shows people how wrong they are than by giving them exactly what they asked for.

So literally accelerationism then. Got it.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Thats how people learn my guy. There's a reason this type of societal stuff is cyclical. Everythings constantly changing, some are slower than others or need more evidence.

Thats how people learn my guy.

Not really, no. People learn in incremental steps. You're talking about the equivalent of tossing a baby in a pool and saying "If they drown, they drown." Like sure, all the surviving babies will learn to swim, but I won't endorse a course that's so callous to all the people who suffer in the process.

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You missed the point entirely. The polls all but guaranteed Kamala would win, but we we're very vocally telling you we weren't voting for her, she was a nonviable candidate. The polls mislead you and instead of acknowledging that she didn't win because she wasn't a popular choice, you blamed people who didn't vote for her and she adopting the same losing strategy.

The polls are misleading, speak to real people, they don't want Newsom. When you insist on him being the candidate because of the polls conducted by capitalist organizations, he still won't win because the people are rejecting genocide supporting right wing candidates that spent years warning us about Trump and the best they can do is crack weak jokes at him.

Newsom is not your friend, insist on a viable candidate.

[–] Stabbitha@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

very vocally telling you we weren't voting for her

Thanks for admitting the current situation is your fault

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Zero critical thinking or reading compensation skills, only brain-rot propaganda.

Since the only reason I even became a US citizen is because the US and Israel destroyed and stole my homeland, you can thank them for me even having the privilege of not voting for them.

I'm not obligated to save your cushy lifestyle as an American when you refuse to stop funding the genocide of my people, but yes of course it's completely my fault that you refused to listen when I told you ahead of time that I'm not voting for them. There was no way for you to have predicted that, you had CNN and MSNBC polls that guaranteed Kamala was going to win in a landslide and I ruined it.

And now that you're making the same mistake again, you're preemptively blaming those of us who oppose soft fascism because to you the only boogyman worth fighting is Trump. And how do you fight Trump's fascism? By selling maga inspired memes and calling JD Vance "just dance dance". Good work.

[–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Your party could've put up a viable candidate instead of a senile old man and a cop. It's squarely on you that you can't win elections, not on people who won't vote for someone as thoroughly unelectable as blue presidential candidates