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[–] obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip 11 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I think most people agree with this idea. There are two basic problems preventing it.

  1. There is a giant gap between what people believe they should be doing and what they'll actually do voluntarily when faced with the slightest inconvenience.

Basically you have to make people do inconvenience things. You can't ask.

For example single-use shopping bags. Everyone understands why they are a problem. Every store sells a reusable alternative. Recyclable paper bags have always been an option. But unless it's regulated, people continue using disposable single use plastic shopping bags.

  1. The problem isn't just what can be recycled it's what WILL be recycled.

Imagine going through construction debris trying to separate plaster, wood-lathing wire-lathing, screws, and insulation into separate piles for disposal.

Picture the average grandma disassembling a sump pump to make sure plastic rubber Teflon and metal materials all end up in separate recyclable piles.

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

And this is why bags are no longer free where i live and cost up to 40c a piece. People quickly stopped using them haha
The inconvenience of the price became larger than always having a reusable bag in the car or bike hehe

[–] obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

We banned them here too. I always forget my reusable bags and toss a loose assortment of goods in my trunk to tumble around.

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

Oh, i get one of the cardboard boxes the shops let you take then haha. That and i have 3, reusable bags in the car and a collapsable plastic box to put my shoppings into xD

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 hours ago

I wish we could pay for them. nope, gotta buy more expensive actual garbage bags that use far far more material

I just need, like, four or five plastic shopping bags a month. that would cover my needs.

instead I'm shovelling dog shit into bread bags that don't quite have a big enough opening

[–] ExtraPartsLeft@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

No where does it say that consumers should be required to do these things. Just that if the only end of life possibility for a product is the land fill, then we should restrict it's manufacturing. Obviously there would need to be exceptions for things like medical needs or accessibility accomodations.

[–] obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

So we don't want to achieve the recycling, repair, and re-use, we just want to know it's theoretically possible?

[–] ExtraPartsLeft@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

No where did I say that, you obtuse troll.