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You said yourself 'there aren't many voices on the left' and what pisses me off is that it is as if you stop short there.
Why are there no voices on the left?
Why are there more voices on the right?
This lack of reflection is what bothers me so much because my opinion is when we reflect we all have no choice but to be fucking pissed off at the answer. The answer is the people who identify as leftist are fucking useless. It's all hot air. It's all platitudes and performance.
Attacking someone is different. People didn't attack Schaub. The goal wasn't to hurt them directly. The community goal was to have a laugh at the expense of these lolcows. That community grew to the point that it had so much reach and engagement that people were seeing schuabism pop off everywhere. It wasn't about coming online to say "fuck Schaub he's such a piece of shit asshole". Instead it was about laughing at Schaub because people were digging and finding clips and content of him pissing in sinks, cam footage from clubs of him cheating on his wife, going bankrupt.
It's what frustrates me so much about the left in general. They tend to think the attack is all that matters, call em a Nazi and upvote. But reality is that need to change. They need the approach like the o&a community had or fighter and the kid. It's what keeps people watching and when people watch they get more content. That content can be used to grow communities which create engagement and capture. It's what should be done with all this man sphere right wing comedy bullshit. It's crazy to think of all the material there is to make fun of these idiots. And when that happens you hobble their ability to use them because nobody wants you listen to a fucking lolcow no matter what they say.
There are not many voices on the left because we lack engagement. We don't have networks. We don't share information the way the right does. It's about capture. We don't direct our attention towards voices and therefore there's no money in it. If there's no voices there's no chance of winning anything in the near future. The only way to win would be for the right to fuck up. Which isn't a win.
I'll challenge this to you. There's clips of Marc Maron shitting on Rogan. Where do I post that here on Lemmy?
Not having a good place to post something like that is a serious problem.
The right has literal millionaire and billionaires funding it's alternative media. Daily Wire
The right also has foreign actors trying to destabilize the US with more astroturfing.
Other "stars" of right wing alternative media literally made a fortune on TV or talk radio and funded their own alternative media companies, like Alex Jones, Glenn Beck, Tucker Carlson. Literally we'll paid conservative TV personalities transitioning to web-based alternative media.
There are fewer people from the left doing the same and they tend to have smaller audiences that right wing counterparts - that is disappointing. I watch many of them but I have no idea how to fix that audience issue.
The left isn't easily led. Herding cats, as they say. Personally, I suspect there is an aspect of conservatism that caters to authoritarianism. I think right wingers like the simplicity of being told what to think and what to do, as long as it makes them feel good. I don't believe the left is motivated the same way. It makes it hard to propagandize if everyone isn't on the same page.
Seriously? If you can't find a place it's because you aren't looking. Will it become viral or wildly successful? I couldn't tell you.
Money in social media is used to replicate what we do naturally. We do it for free everyday. We also have the ability to make the money they spend exponentially increase. The "money" you're talking about goes to buying views, bots to pollute comment sections, reach and engagement. Every comment section or piece of media that produced costs money. If we drown that out, they have to pay more. We can blow up their costs with minimal effort, but we have to be aware of it. Same way we all were on the same page with "dont wrestle with pigs" a message that weirdly propagated among the left.
That money is used to replicate what we all do for free which is my point. Our attention is money. We all can beat money if we actually sat and thought about it for half a second. Money isn't the reason they're winning. They're winning because what that money buys gives them an advantage.
The left are just as easily led. The problem is they don't have awareness. Something I'm coming to realize is the right might actually have a lot more self awareness. They are in it to win. That's why they don't care about Trump and what he says or does.
Nope. Hard disagree. We're not talking about the same thing and we have way different views about how much time and energy it would take to drown out the efforts of billionaires and foreign states. If we focused our energy on that we'd achieve a drop in the ocean. Hell, I feel like I'm wasting my time arguing with a bot right now and I've achieved jack fuck.
It's not about getting dirty now when it comes to this, it's about effectiveness. You are ignoring my points, moving goal posts, and instigating responses. Good luck with whatever. I'm out.
Crazy how you can argue that a single entity regardless of how much money they have could ever out pace the efforts of a mass of people. But this is why the left isn't winning while they are.
You can't ever convince me that we can mobilize people to step out into the street for every damn issue like the woman's March, George Floyd, anti King protest, Anti ice. That you somehow have reasoned that you can see the streets filled with enough people to do something through that action but you can't ever imagine those people being expected to create content or share or network or just leave 5-10 comments online when they see a shit as right wing take.
The output by any billionaire trying to output views online is no match for a motivated people. But this is the problem. The left have become Luddites while the right seizes every digital space.
Every left wing spaces I'm in now becomes a hateful place towards any new technology or social media.