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[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I really don't think that Trump giving a human trafficker special treatment to say that he isn't a pedophile is gonna play out as well with his base as he thinks it will.

[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think you are vastly overestimating his base. They are looking for convenient excuses not logic or evidence. As long as there is a convenient excuse to trot out, Trump is still God Incarnate and the delusions continue. Someone looking for the truth won't be swayed by the obviously bribed testimony of someone who has repeatedly lied under oath, but these people aren't looking for the truth- they already have it in whatever Trump is saying that day. They just need something to point to and say "See? She says he wasn't involved so he wasn't involved! You liberals are just making things up to hurt Trump again!" This is a world where evidence isn't what matters, it's quips. As long as there's a quip to shut down any disagreement the fantasy that Trump is a saintly hero of democracy can continue.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

I'm sure some of them will believe whatever the narrative is, but some of them have been on this train since the early QAnon days. They've been promised arrests, public executions, and a, "great awakening," where their conspiracy theories about the deep-state pedophile cabal is exposed and their children call them and apologize for uninviting them to Thanksgiving. Trump created a very big fracture with those people a few weeks ago when he told them to shut up and stop talking about Epstien, and his damage control has been very poor. Maybe he can get ahold of the narrative again, but he'll need to do more than have a human trafficker say he did nothing wrong.

[–] Neon_Shadow@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They won't care. They have no morals or hard lines. They'll support whatever dear leader tells them to. There will be a few days of fake outrage, and then they will stop caring.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We'll see. He spent the last 6 years stirring up this Santanic-panic pedophile shit, I don't think it's going to be that easy to put down. Besides that, he's about to throw us into a massive recession with huge inflation. I've never been one of those, "Trump is finished! There's no way he's coming back from this!" guys, but this really seems like a perfect storm of events that will hurt his most loyal followers.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

His base voted for him AFTER he was convicted of 34 felonies and became an adjudicated rapist.

They're subhuman.

They'll work up an excuse for this.