It's like an entry rule for MAGAt women:
- Fuck up your face.
- See #1.
this post was submitted on 12 Aug 2025
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It's largely incidental.
Soft-tissue cosmetic surgery doesn't last. They're foreign objects in the body, so over time your body tries to break them down. Lip filler slowly diffuses around the bottom of your face, for example. Botox paralysing muscles affects strength and elasticity.
So it's a cursed treadmill. You can't stop getting surgery once you start. A single surgery will look worse than your unaltered face if you only have one, so every few years you have to get it again.
But.. all the old stuff is still in there. The muscle damage accumulates. The filler accumulates, and is impossible to remove. You might remove some of your own tissue to 'reshape' as it gets more advanced, but many just 'top up'.
Either way, you are permanently altered. They don't choose to look like this, they choose to make minor adjustments to look younger/hotter/etc that slowly turn them into this.
These big changes often are, though. You may regret it and get it removed, but you’re going to age far worse in any case.
There’s a whole movement right now of these people getting their surgery reversed, but in many cases the long-term damage has been done and you will age worse than if you hadn’t done it. You have scar tissue that will age differently, no matter how minor and no matter what you do.
It’s really sad, because these people are making themselves look worse now and they’ll also age worse, and they’ll likely hate that, then spend thousands more in that cycle, like you said.
As in, the desired results arent permanent. I'll edit to rephrase.
Yet the big changes typically aren't the cosmetic surgery, they're the damage. Either literally, or an attempt to treat it.
They might remove some cheek fat, but even that is them trying to catch up: because degraded filler makes their face look puffy and their lips ill-defined.
The filler is spread put around their cells regardless. It is impossible to remove. As is any muscular damage from long-term paralysis.
And yes, agreed. Reconstructive plastic surgery has lower risk, but when it comes to soft tissue cosmetic surgery, the only winning move is not to play.
I wish there were laws against this quackery, because it’s literally unscrupulous ‘doctors’ taking advantage of women who have been conditioned to believe they’re inferior, and especially by these doctors.
‘You could be pretty if’ [you lifted your cheeks, sculpted your nose, etc]. You’re like 90% there! [Draws lines on face in sharpie, so they’ll be there for 2 days, reminding you of everything he said was wrong every time you look in a mirror]. Just this quick thing and you’ll be perfect!
It’s abominable and should mean revocation of their licence to practice.
Gender affirming surgery laws?
You’re clearly not serious.
No. Quite obviously, because even you can see how intent, plus many more indicators, matters.
Try writing that law.
It’s already part of gender affirming surgery. Informed consent is all up and down those procedures, to the point they’re really hard to get. You have to prove to multiple doctors you’re of sound mind, you’re totally informed of the risks, and you won’t regret your decision.
But ruining your face only takes 20,000 and a walk-in appointment. Hell, go to the right parties, and they’ll come to you.
Pretty sure you said there should be laws. In this case, let the idiots be themselves.
i feel like the movement is very niche and limited to rich people
I've known a number of people at the bottom end of the economic spectrum who have gone in for shit like this. This is what they save up for and spend their money on, at the expense of having a house and a viable retirement and taking care of their children etc. etc.
Unfortunately, you can find back-alley fillers and implants for cheap if you know where to look.
I'm starting to think cosmetic surgery shouldn't be allowed unless it's for a medical purpose like restructuring someone's face after being assaulted or something.
Purely cosmetic surgery seems like it's simply immoral doctors preying on insecure women.
Eh...I'd want a lot more effort spent to ensure patients are given 100% accurate, fully informed information re: outcomes and upkeep, and give consent only after seriously weighing that, but I dunno about banning purely cosmetic surgery.
A) I like the idea that humans have the freedom to modify their own bodies in whatever ways they see fit, so long as they accept the risks and realistic outcomes, and B) Banning would just create more underground practices, which is particularly bad for patient safety.
...being deemed mentally stable.
I'd go more mentally competent. Are you capable of understanding the risks and what the end state actually is? You've had some time after the doctor has demonstrably given you the whole set of information to make an informed decision? You still want to move forward? K, here's a surgery date.
Might just be me, but mental stability has some slippery connotations (thinking about the history of the term hysteria, different forms of social stigma turned into pathology, etc.) But we could very well be talking about the same thing using a different word.
I think mandatory warnings and better transparency should be enough. It's none of our business if someone wants to change their appearance, given that they're fully aware of the consequences.
And in this political climate, the government would deem transition surgeries to be "cosmetic" and "medically unnecessary".
A lot of the technical advancements in plastic surgery came about during and after WWI because of all the facial reconstruction of horribly wounded soldiers that had to be done. In that context, of course, it's a great thing, but it's a horror what it's turned into.
The same can be said for tattoos and piercings.
the botox prevents muscle movement, so the muscles atrophy and cause sagging so now they have to get more. anyone watches ISAIP, rob and kaitlyn went overboard on this too, now even thier hardcore fans are clowning how fake they are.