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Having 2 festering heeps of authoritarianism next to your country is less than ideal. A strong handed attempt to reform them would be better, like an external board to determine their districts (though it'd require an amendment to the constitution)
Disagree entirely. Reform is less possible than eviction. If the federal government said “we will allow it” then Florida and Texas would overwhelmingly vote to Amerexit.
And shit, let’s just let the south have all of it back. Let them reform themselves. Slavery? Not my problem.
That's a lack of empathy that I cannot agree with.
Straight white middle class male?
So for not wanting people to be literally enslaved you are profiling me as a straight white middle class male. Wow.
No, for not wanting those nut jobs to split off and do their own thing, leaving the rest of us to enjoy life… that is why. Am I wrong?
“Empathy” hah.
Their own thing is oppressing people. We should stop that much as far as we have power to , and if we can force them out of the union that's likely from a position where we would.
You would allow the people in those states to be oppressed just to make your own life easier. Yes, you are wrong
You’re a man and middle class. You live in Chicago. You work for a big company. You have a car. The only thing in question is your race and sexuality. Rolling the dice on sexuality being heterosexual. So you’re not white? I could scroll more and find out, but just admin it’s all true.
And if you were a heterosexual middle class white male, you wouldn’t be able to comprehend why I want them not part of my country.
You're a moron. Of course you want to expell the horrifying bigots. However, leaving those left there to die is not good. I work for a big company??? Yes, I do. As a part time worker, the fuck? Target employees also work for a big company, does that make them have money?
Having a $3k car does not make a guy middle class either.
I am white. I'm saying that your logic in reasoning as such is ridiculous.
The cost of your car doesn’t mean your household isn’t middle class. Lots of people with money don’t waste their money on cars.
Do you think I'm raking in 100,000 working a part time job.
You ask questions to avoid answering. You’ve never said your household income was not middle class. Is your household income middle class?
No. I'm a single man. I don't have a household to speak of, lol
Nice edit 🤡
Yes, I was mistaken on what you said. Didn't change the core point that I'm a single man with no household. And that you're still fine with people being oppressed as long as it isn't you
You’d rather we all have to suffer instead of some of us getting out.
If we had the position of power to force those states out we'd have a position of power to force them on the right path
Avoiding.
If a state had a local popular vote to split and it passed, then a national vote to split was done—would you vote to allow that state to split?
The premise was kicking out, not a peaceful split. If they voted on it, I would vote against it. I'd rather do every effort to bring them back from oppressive authoritarianism and prevent them from being worse.
Including throwing other people under the bus. Nice. I’ll bet you’d like to prevent people from leaving the country too. Less blue voters. Gotta make them stay.
I think you like watching people suffer.
No, not including throwing other people under the bench. That's what YOU are suggesting, is throwing every gay in texas under the bus.
The house is burning down whether you like it or not. There is nothing we can do about it. Some of us should be able to survive. Don’t lock the door and force us all to burn.