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[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

A lot of software still requires Windows.

Games are a big one for sure, but there is a lot of productivity and creative software that does not run on Linux.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 days ago

Games are a big one for sure

Unless we're talking about the handful of kernel-level anti-cheat games where the devs have refused to allow Linux support through Proton, nearly every game you own will work. Most of them without any tinkering whatsoever.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (24 children)

This is a myth and has been for several years. The only games that do not work with linux are ones that have intentionally artificially disallowed the use of linux using kernel level anticheat (rootkit). Many of these games worked on linux until adding no-linux policies to their anticheat.

There is no technical incompatibility, only artificial policy choices that game companies have made

EDIT: you can downvote me, but I am still correct.

[–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I have been trying to get the sims to work on my wife's Linux laptop. I can either get it to run at 3-4fps, or I can get it to run without the ability to save anything.

I have Steam deck and with every game I have tried on it so far working, I thought it would be the same with a laptop. Boy was I wrong.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Not sure which Sims you're referring to, but it looks like it should work: https://www.protondb.com/search?q=the+Sims+

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It looks like The Sims 4 is the only one that might need some tinkering. Stupid EA installers...

Though the only entry for the first Sims game that appears in the results is the "Legacy Collection," so if you're referring to like the original CD-ROM or something, it might be different.

Edit: just noticed that Sims 3 doesn't appear to have any entries on ProtonDB so I don't know... If any of them don't work is most likely because of EA bullshit

[–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sims 4, and I have tried every version of Proton, I have tried proton ge or whatever it is, I have tried every suggestion in the sims 4 protondb entry.

I have tried the suggestions in my thread about it. (I think there was one I still need to try, actually)

I have the fitgirl repack, I have tried via steam, I have tried the .exe from EA.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago

Bummer, sorry to hear that.

[–] chickenf622@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What distro of Linux did you install on the laptop? I've had no luck getting wine to work on Fedora, but my desktop is running Bazzite which is based on the steam deck OS and I'm games run great (sometimes with tweaking required).

[–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Oh, Sims 4 fit girl pack Ive gotten to run consistently on Cinnamon. Feel free to ping me sometime if you try it and run into an issue, I may be able to get lucky with a pointer.

It's got a shit ton of expansions in it.

Edit: (Believe the last couple of times I did the installs through Lutris. I just picked the .exe and used the standard wine defaults for the install, then once it's done I believe it worked fine by adding a game and pointing it to the .exe for the play file. Then if you feel like it you can switch to proton to see if you get better performance, but a Mint install with a Pentium Processor with 4gb of ram (HP touchsmart) was able to run it, so most anything should be able to use the standard wine setup just fine.)

[–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

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I receive this error while running the setup.exe through lutris.

I also tried installing the version you can download through lutris which seems to only be a simsync app that never connects to anything.

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[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Drop down, change Z to X and I usually pick program files (That should hopefully fix the permissions / "not enough space" errors)

Let me know what it says if it doesn't work

[–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

There was no option for X:, and there was no program files in Z:, however C:\program files appears to be installing, 45 minutes to completion.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Awesome, glad to hear it!

If it fails near the end, just run it again and it will go through usually, not sure why but I've had that happen with a couple installs on Lutris, but they usually work the second time

[–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I went to bed while it installed, woke up and it finally completed. When I launch either via the icon within lutris or the script in the desktop it gives me a language selection dialog, the sims 4 icon appears in the tray, I select the language and that is all it does. I am out hiking with my dog, I will copy the script contents when I get home.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

I ran the install and created an Inpress(PowerPoint for LibreOffice) document with all the screenshots this morning., then realized I can't upload it here. But hopefully the only error you had was trying to run it from the installer. If so, add the locally installed game in Lutris using the + and choosing the last option (locally installed game).

Then point it to your .exe file

Should be something like Games/Sims/drive_c/program files/the Sims 4/game/bin_le/ts4.exe

DM me an email address or somewhere I can drop the Screenshots if you would like them.

Edit: found a work around so you don't need to give me an email, apparently a site called file.io is run by the makers of lime wire, link to Impress file https://limewire.com/d/tnxkQ#Eq702rvgjW

Link to PowerPoint in case https://limewire.com/d/k1LhN#lJC6g3xCkt

[–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

I had some time before game and got it to load. But I am getting the cannot save error again, which prevents me from actually entering the game.

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I downloaded the file, but did not have a chance to open it yet.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Damn, I haven't seen that before, but I wonder if it's a permissions error? The save files for The Sims are located in a user documents folder within the install location we made. I assume you installed with the same user that's running the game so I'm not sure why it wouldn't have permissions to that folder. Could check the permissions on that save folder just in case. Was the installer a new one you downloaded when we started talking? If so that would have ruled out a corrupt installer too. I'll let you know if I think of anything else

[–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I had previously downloaded it. But I also get this error when I am able to get the Steam version running.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Was that steam version downloaded through steam? Aka is it a different installer, or did you install in steam using the non-steam game option. (Just trying to verify it's a different installer, don't do the install again if it's 2 seperate install packs you installed from)

Steam installs in a different location than Lutris as well, so it shouldn't be the specific folder not having permissions. I assume Steam user Proton by default as well while Lutris likely defaulted to Wine.

Grr.. this is going to be something stupid and frustrating for you.

Edit: I checked my location (you will have to modify it to fit your install path, my username was mint on this machine, so keep that in mind) /home/mint/Games/sims/drive_c/users/mint Then I'd check that Documents folder (Where I am hoping the permissions got botched) and if those are right check the EA and The Sims 4 folders drilling down until you check the save folder in /home/mint/Games/sims/drive_c/users/mint/Documents/Electronic Arts/The Sims 4 (if you followed down the rabbit hole you are already there.

If that all looks good honestly I don't know why it would be acting so strange after using 2 separate installers.

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[–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 hours ago

Thanks, I run two d&d games today. I will try it when I get home.

[–] glog78@digitalcourage.social 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

@theunknownmuncher @TheFeatureCreature

Ok let's give you some more software which still don't work with linux

- recordbox
- serato
- traktor
- engine dj

While recordbox 6 still worked in a kvm environment ... recordbox 7 crashes even in this environment.
You can to a certain degree avoid maybe serato or traktor and use "engine dj in a kvm" to prepare denon stuff but you always need recordbox for preparing usb sticks too as a dj.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Again, further proving my point. Rekordbox was arbitrarily designed to detect if it is being run with WINE to prevent use with linux. There is no technical incompatibility, only a policy choice, and you can get rekordbox to run with linux if you jump through hoops to defeat the WINE detection.

[–] glog78@digitalcourage.social 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

@theunknownmuncher i used a kvm not wine. My guess it requieres a certain level of HW Acceleration on the GPU Side to be runable ( the new AI Stuff in RB 7.x ).
Fun fact their support wanted me to install a amd gpu driver in my kvm ( i was laughing ) ... after telling them this doesn't make sense i got to some other support unit and they told me this isn't a supported environment and i should keep using RB 6 which basically is getting slower and slower with every release ...

PS: if you got a good link to get RB 7.x to run in WINE ( Proton ) and being able to hand in removable media and such i would not mind to take my time to set this up.

[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I never gave a reason why a game would/wouldn't run on Linux. I just said that games are a reason some people continue to use Windows.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's a very small subset of games and most are live service microtransaction garbage not worth playing anyway. Many are spyware and viruses disguised as games, eg Valorant

[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The quality of those games is irrelevant. The user asked why people still use Windows and I gave a few examples. Simple as that.

You are arguing for the sake of it.

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, they're saying you are making a mountain of molehill and using it as justification. You are saying you are technically correct, the best kind of correct.

Now you two feel free to proceed, I have my popcorn.

Yeah but they are saying a reason why people don't move, not a justification of why he isn't.

That said I had to run a program that detected my computer specs for a job interview recently, and they flagged my machine because I had just booted Windows in Virtual box so I could hopefully pass their test. Instead I had to borrow my spouses laptop, run the test then went back to using my computer for everything else once the test was over.

That said, you should never take a job that requires you to use your own hardware... But desperate times...

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

The user asked why people still use Windows and I gave a few examples.

You gave examples, but they were incorrect and invalid examples. As I already corrected you, you're parroting a myth because games do run on Linux. In fact, games run better and faster on linux than windows

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2025/06/games-run-faster-on-steamos-than-windows-11-ars-testing-finds/

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