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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 99 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Twenty years ago, some savvy engineers created the Rumba. It's a kind of annoying overpriced vacuum cleaner, but you can at least see the edges of a useful appliance.

Ten years ago, everyone was smelling their own farts about the advent of autonomous taxis. And, idk, we can at least pretend we're in the ballpark right now.

Today, it's noticeable how AI feels like a surrender on actual autonomous machines. Like, the idea of doing actual robotics is out the window. We're only going to spend our money on a solved problem - data processing - and see what we can wring out of it.

I do wonder what this will mean in another ten or twenty years.

[–] MohamedMoney@feddit.org 25 points 2 weeks ago

It’ll get worse and more boring.

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

So this is scary. We already know that POTUS has no quams about using ai to make shit fake videos. I would be surprised if his plan for indefinite term is actually chat gpt plan.

Ps. Chat gpt DOES actively try to manipulate you.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 11 points 2 weeks ago

Ps. Chat gpt DOES actively try to manipulate you.

I think mostly it just tells you what it thinks you want to hear. If you push it hard enough to tell you something, it will tell you that. Grok, OTOH, is explicitly trained to try to give you biased answers.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Ps. Chat gpt DOES actively try to manipulate you.

No, it doesn't "try" to do anything. Don't antropomorphise it.

[–] blind3rdeye@aussie.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago

It's a short hand way of communicating. Like saying that a good search engine tries to find the most relevant sites. Or a streaming algorithm tries to recommend videos that you'll watch. It's not that we are saying these things are conscious or whatever. We're just describing what they do.

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

No your just not sharp. Chat gpt actively tries to copy your vernacular, To relate to you. Ask it next time.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, that robotics stuff is happening still (e.g. little robot mowers using machine vision for easier guidance).

But you are right that the prospect of advanced robotics gets a fraction of the attention that chatbots get. Trillions of bets on datacenter bound LLMs that can generate images, videos, and text but a relative pittance for advancements that would translate to physical labor..

I get that there's value, but the value proposition seems way out of whack.

[–] cabb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

It's not hyped in the media, probably because it's Chinese companies doing it, but there have been massive strides towards creating humanoid robotics in the past couple of years. They aren't nearly to the point of being autonomous but there's a simple humanoid robot that's selling for 5900 today.