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I’m not against the technology, I’m against people who runs it. I have problem with how they teach their LLMs on code, user data, music, books, webs all without author’s / user’s consent and worse even with authors / users explicit NO consent to scrape or to use it for learning. Another level is lack of security - ChatGPT chats available to everyone. Deep fakes everywhere, just see the latest Taylor Swift one. Sorry, but fuck you with all of this. There is lack of basic security, privacy and ignoring all of its danger. Only what that fucking AI firms want is easy, cheep and quick money. All that hype for nothing = means you cannot even rely on the output.
yet you need these masses of input for the technology to exist. the business models that base on the technology aren't sustainable even without payment of the input data.
Do we really need this technology to exist though? It's unreliable and very niche as far as I have seen.
People say that it speeds up certain tasks, but it's so unreliable that you need to error-check the whole thing afterwards.
It's a new technology barely out of infancy. Of course it's unreliable and niche. You could say the same thing about any technological advance in history.
The very nature of how it functions is unreliable. It's a statistical probabilistic model. It's great for what it was designed to do but imagining that it has any way of rationalising data is purely that, just imagination. Even if let's say we accept that it makes an error rate at the same rate as humans do (if it can even identify an error reliably), there's no accountability in place that ensures that it would check the correctness like a human would.
I understand perfectly how LLMs work, and I made no claims about what they can do. Taking them on their own capabilities (text generation, inspiration, etc), not what some lying-through-their-teeth marketer said, is there a reason to say they 'shouldn't exist'?
OP didn't phrase it as "should they exist" but as "do we need them to exist".
And personally i think not, we don't need them. In text generation they are good... inspiration? They are more of an inspiration killer imo.
We don't NEED any particular technology to exist. That's a weird distinction to make.
Different minds work differently.
No, mankind certainly needs a lot of techonologies (maybe just out of built dependency) either to mantain our living standards or just plainly to ensure that we produce and distribute enough resources for everyone to survive.
We need LLMs as much as we needed 3D movies or augmented reality.
als brechmittel.
Endlich hab jemand eine echte Nutzung für LLMs gefunden.
Take any of those technologies that we depend on today, and go back to the decade they were invented. Practically none of them would have been considered 'needed' either. It takes time for technology to mature and be adopted. I'll grant that the crazy pro-AI shills aren't helping things any
You could say that. But you could also say that none of these other technological advances got pushed through this badly while being obviously not ready for ~~widespread~~ use.
And also, can you really say that though? Most other technological advances had a pretty clear distinction from the older way of doing things.
I can certainly agree with you that most current advertised use cases of LLMs are total bullshit, yes. My point is just that asking if it deserves to exist based on its shortfalls is weird, when it's barely existed a few years. It just shouldn't be getting pushed as much as it is
Maybe it shouldn't be a business model then.
it is what it is: a very expensive toy.
Of common, you justifying stealing by this bullshit?
i'm generally fine with stealing as practice in the daily class struggle. i mean the owning class has the legal right to do so. and in doubt they just exercise it, judges will later find it to be fair use. no need to justify, it's description of societies' order.
Fuck the copyright system as it exists today.