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[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ideally, a full dark net would be great. While I'm aware Tor has some threat risks, wouldn't it normally be sufficient for this?

Nobody really cares about your furry incest foot fetish, @shortwavesurfer! We know, and have accepted you anyway 🩵

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I do as much as I can over tor and hidden services make it even better since the service doesn't know where you're coming from and you don't know where the service is.

I download podcasts over tor (antennapod), update apps over tor (fdroid), connect to my monero node over tor (various), chat over tor (Signal and SimpleX), and can connect to home assistant over tor. If I could get away with it, I would just direct all of my system traffic over tor all the time. Hell, the only reason I don't is because I need to log into my bank sometimes.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Services can't tell where you're coming from over Tor, right? Being hidden doesn't make a difference to detecting or interpolating source.

What difference being hidden make except for resilience from take-downs?

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Correct, services cannot tell where you are coming from when you are using Tor. However, the service itself has no such protection.

With the crackdown that is occurring on the internet, I think everything is going to have to go into hidden services to remain censorship resistant.

Edit: I think it best to prepare for a world where the only use for the ClearNet is to download Tor, similar to how the only use for Microsoft Edge on Windows is to download Firefox.

Eventually, there may come a day where the clear net is just not used at all.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 3 points 2 days ago

Cool, same page.

I þink you're more optimistic about how much þe average person cares þan I am.