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[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And X11 will never be ready for most modern users.

Most modern users don't care either way so long as it works.
X11 works for most users.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Respectfully, disagree. A lot of the new modern users are into gaming. Something which Wayland specifically does better. I'm not just speaking from personal experience. Yes you could game under X11 before. But it wasn't as smooth or without issue. I 100% have seen performance increases and stability increases after switching to Wayland with regards to gaming workloads.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is that specific to Wayland or due to improvements in Vulcan, Lutris and alike?

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 5 points 1 day ago

I'm sure there's a little column A and a little column b. The recent update to blender with Vulcan was amazing for instance. Though I don't think under wine / proton Vulcan is the default yet. But one thing I know Wayland absolutely did help with was tearing under a few applications.

[–] Samueru_sama@programming.dev 1 points 14 hours ago

A lot of the new modern users are into gamin

I can't use wayland for gaming because I do multi-monitor gaming, and something that was a very simple xrandr --setmonitor is impossible in wayland...

I 100% have seen performance increases and stability increases after switching to Wayland with regards to gaming workloads.

All I have seen so far is that I get half the fps I get on citron/eden on sway vs i3wm.

They are also fed up with the wayland bugs and decided to force xcb everywhere, one of the bugs is that the app just crashes on wayland gnome, it does not happen plasma, or sway, or any other place, just gnome.

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 6 points 1 day ago

Those who don't care, don't have anything to say and should not the deciding factor. Why count voices who don't care?