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[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 128 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Scotland is doing a better job at protesting this fuck than the US.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

I don't think you understand.

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https://www.democracynow.org/2025/6/16/no_kings

just pointing out, Scotland only has 5.5 million people living in it.

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that would mean for Scotland to "do a better job at protesting this fuck than the US." every single man, woman, child and elder would have to be in your streets right now.

how shit is that, you can't even organize 5 million people for a simple protest.

update: I'm not even going to wait on this because the numbers are abysmal. Edinburgh is calling in "hundreds" of protestors and I'll give the benefit of the doubt to Scotland and say there's 1000 protestors nationwide.

many of you twats argued it should be measured by per capita, so let's do that.

Scotland

  • population 5,500,000
  • trump golf protest 1000
  • per capita 0.00018

in comparison to the US.

  • population 347,411,739
  • no kings 5,000,000
  • per capita 0.014

but hey, it's not a competition, I just don't like it when someone denigrates the efforts of people to make themselves feel better. I know what you're thinking, "aren't you being a little hypocritical?" no I'm not, because I'm simply calling out bullshit with facts.

those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

don't like it? tough shit. next time don't talk shit and there won't be shit.

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 65 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I think they meant as a percentage of the population. Americans with the second amendment are notoriously docile little pups when it comes to protesting anything, let alone the illegitimately installed head of their state actively destroying their country their are so notoriously patriotic about.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Are you suggesting that people just open fire on one of the most protected individuals in the world? How do you suppose that would play out in reality?

I think 2a is a joke and those that have used it as a crutch for these specific moments are a bunch of hypocrites, but attempting to actually assassinate the POTUS is not realistic at all. I'd cut them some slack if they exercised their rights to stop the indiscriminate kidnappings by ICE, but here we are.

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (14 children)

Well, that’s how things happen in France, Syria and a lot of other places historically. It’s already played out twice in the last year.

And because of the complete complacency in the citizenry first with Citizens United, then the failure to hold him to criminal account for his many crimes and endless quid pro quo, and the stacking of the supreme court turning him into a king, the bullet is actually the only way to stop him. That or waiting till he collapses, which could be a while.

There are no more elections or protests to get rid of him. The concentration camps are being built and filled. The only thing left is to get all your highly individualised asses who don’t even know the concept and power of unions and banding together and form a militia.

The complacency is absolutely insane to see from abroad.

PS: and learn from JFK: have multiple shooters not just one.

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[–] stickly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Let's do per capita then:

"hundreds of protesters" (we'll round up to 1000) of 5.5 million => 0.018%

5 million of 347 million => 1.4%

I assume the original comment was a joke but glad you to get to feel so high and mighty about it.

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I’m really not sure what you’re trying to prove.

In one country 0.018% rocks up at a moment’s notice for a guy they could care less about and has no real effect on their lives, isn’t deporting their families or screwing them out of medicare. He’s not disrespecting their vets or pulling them off food stamps. He’s coming over to golf, that’s the extent of the relation.

They just don’t like him and will make some time on whatever Sunday he rocks up to tell him that.

Compare that to to 1.4% (barely 100x more) protesting after years of crimes, n and proud admissions of rape, child molestation, cheating at 3 elections, being illegitimate installed as president right now, impeachments, thousands of illegal deportations of fellow citizens or countrymen, complete bonkers enrichment with crypto scams, gross incompetence on lots of levels, including militarily and economically, embroiled in scandal after scandal

So after MONTHS of organising, there were 2 protests which had over 1% of the population out on the streets. And now… nothing. Not even a general strike. Because the free markets are so free, you freely would like to express your freedom of expression if you only were actually free.

Have a look at when that magical 1% threshold was breached in other countries historically and for what reasons.

And while you’re there, look at what happened after. Typically when you have 1% protests, they are met with action from the goverment. Promises and changes are made to appease the protesters. Back in the USA, they went home, and stayed home. Deportations continued afterwards. And then a bill was signed to make ICE the new gestapo and become the biggest domestic paramilitary organisation in the world.

Not sure why anyone would ever try to claim “Americans are great protesters, and love civil action”.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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[–] stickly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

When it comes to collective, coordinated, public opposition to a government: 1% is noteworthy, 3% is a crisis, more is a revolution.

The rest of your comment is glorified hot air.

"Why not organize a simple general strike" actually laughing out loud at that one.

200 million+ people, in a country with many laws specifically designed to curtail general striking, with no trusted access to each other, dispersed over thousands of miles, with all social support networks carefully dismantled over decades, with most of them living paycheck to paycheck and 0 social saftey net...

Should just nod at each other and agree not to work tomorrow. Clearly a lack of moral fiber in those bloody Yanks 🧐

If you really think your opinions hold any water on a wildly different country halfway across the globe, just keep your mouth shut. Unless you want to keep making a fool of yourself I guess.

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[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's because they convinced those people to vote for him. At least 1/3 of the country loves this guy, and a lot of people are scared of ICE or that other 1/3. None of those problems exist there.

More people should be active, but I'm not a fan of just shitting on everything people do because it's not enough. That's a quick easy to make people stop doing anything.

The "No Kings" protests on June 14, 2025, are estimated to be among the largest single-day demonstrations in U.S. history, potentially exceeding the 2017 Women's March in turnout. Data journalist G. Elliott Morris of Strength in Numbers estimates that between 4 and 6 million people participated in the "No Kings" events across the country. This would represent approximately 1.2-1.8% of the U.S. population.

That's impressive, we shouldn't be shitting on it as not enough.

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

I’m not shitting on it, and it is not enough at the same time.

I’m amazed at the yanks coming out of the woodwork in this thread.

You as a collective citizenry have not stepped up. At all. Barely ⅓ voted for him. Probably closer to 20~25% liked him over the other. I’m sure that’s gone down significantly.

There is not a single person outside the US who is watching this who thinks the yanks are doing enough. It’s great there was one big protest, but it is a far cry from a proportionate response to the crisis levelled at you.

Instead of attacking people here on Lemmy, I would organise. This isn’t shaming or slamming, it is constructive criticism because as much as we would all want to, we aren’t in any capacity to come land on your beaches anytime soon. And half of you still thinks the midterms will bring reason and mediation to this madness.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 37 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

America's compulsive need to always be right is why you deserve Trump. He is the exact essence of your country.

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I deserve Trump? I voted against him and actively engage with my local government to stop this. Everyone who voted against this deserves Trump? You're ready to just write off everyone in the country? Fuck em all?

Fuck, you're just as bad as him.

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[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 33 points 2 days ago (3 children)

An American who doesn't understand the concept of per capita. That is certainly new. /s

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[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

that would mean for Scotland to "do a better job at protesting this fuck than the US." every single man, woman, child and elder would have to be in your streets right now.

This. Is. Not. How. It. Works.

[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (24 children)

Yes Scotland has a population of approx 5.5M so in order to have a higher percentage of the population protesting they'd need to have 80K people take to the streets just like Greenland would need 760 people to outperform the states.

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I just wanted to say that this, along with the rest of your comments in this thread, have proven to be the most inane series of arguments I've seen lately.

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

God I hate that term, surplus, like humans are all fucking cattle and nothing but fodder for the material machine.

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[–] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah but the weather's nice isn't it. Suns oot, taps aff, might as well go and join a radgey outside a golf course.

edit: this sounds like I'm being flippant, I'm not. Crack on boys and girls, go wild

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