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I think they meant as a percentage of the population. Americans with the second amendment are notoriously docile little pups when it comes to protesting anything, let alone the illegitimately installed head of their state actively destroying their country their are so notoriously patriotic about.
Are you suggesting that people just open fire on one of the most protected individuals in the world? How do you suppose that would play out in reality?
I think 2a is a joke and those that have used it as a crutch for these specific moments are a bunch of hypocrites, but attempting to actually assassinate the POTUS is not realistic at all. I'd cut them some slack if they exercised their rights to stop the indiscriminate kidnappings by ICE, but here we are.
Well, that’s how things happen in France, Syria and a lot of other places historically. It’s already played out twice in the last year.
And because of the complete complacency in the citizenry first with Citizens United, then the failure to hold him to criminal account for his many crimes and endless quid pro quo, and the stacking of the supreme court turning him into a king, the bullet is actually the only way to stop him. That or waiting till he collapses, which could be a while.
There are no more elections or protests to get rid of him. The concentration camps are being built and filled. The only thing left is to get all your highly individualised asses who don’t even know the concept and power of unions and banding together and form a militia.
The complacency is absolutely insane to see from abroad.
PS: and learn from JFK: have multiple shooters not just one.
thank you for telling Americans how they are being Americans wrong from the comfort of your own country.
it swells my heart with pride knowing that a Frenchman is telling my countrymen how to be more American by assassinating their leaders. going as far as glorifying the assassination of one of our most beloved leaders as a blueprint.
we will gladly risk life imprisonment at a darksite in a tiny windowless cell, where we will never see our families or loved ones again. All because YOU said we should do it.
we will risk death so that you can go back to feeling slightly less inconvenienced in your country, France.
can you please forgive us lowly peasants for ever questioning you?
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it's fucking hilarious that of all the Europeans to come this hard at Americans, it's the fucking French. leave it to the Frenchman to tell someone else to die for a cause they don't have a cause in. no fear of death, nor retribution, nor punishment.
will you open your country to my family after the deed is done? I will most likely parish, and my family would be hunted down and killed like animals, if not by the government then by the fanatics. would you risk an open war with America and fight for the protection of my loved ones? Would you feed them, clothe them. Would you allow your countrymen to die for them? would YOU die for them?
I didn't think so.
Ceux qui croient à des absurdités commettront des atrocités.
Enjoy the ~~President~~ dictator you deserve
They're both kinda wrong. There are plenty of protests in the US, just not reported as much because the media works with the administration.
Their response suggests that they think the French have never sacrificed their lives for anything, which is absolutely stupid.
it was a tongue in cheek reference to how the French initially refused to get involved in the American revolutionary war until they directly benefited from it.
and how they would allow their own people to starve while the aristocracy overindulged.
I also thought it was particularly indignant for someone in another country to tell me, an American, what I should sacrifice and how I should rebel when they don't know the first thing about what my country is going through. they don't live here, they don't know what every day is like. they don't understand the risks.
I think it's a pretty funny that Europeans praise unity and solidarity and then attack Americans just because they're Americans. I used to think that Europe was light years ahead of us, but now I'm thinking you're just as fractured and broken as us.
I wonder who will come to your aid when Russia starts expanding? surely they won't expect the fascist loving all knowing piece of shit Americans to help.
We (as in the rest of the world) definitely do have a better understanding of you than you do of us. That's what happens when a country that thinks it's always right meddles with everyone else's business.
The French monarchy refused to get involved until it benefited him. Which has fuck all to do with any modern Frenchman's to opinions.
so history can't form culture. cool.
so those hundreds of years of art culture spurned on from the aristocracy don't mean anything to the modern day French?
I'll keep that in mind next time someone wants to tell me about the Louvre.
Lol. The fuck are talking about?
The diplomatic decisions of a monarch are not reflective of even his subjects at the time, let alone create lasting culture, especially not when that monarch was literally overthrown and executed.
And trying to pull that on someone hundreds of years and multiple governments separated from the offending king when Trump is literally the elected president right now is just abject nonsense.
Ooh someone's feeling defensive!
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As an American: you should shut the fuck up with the French stereotypes. Using those tropes and stereotypes as a serious insult or attack only serves to prove your own (stereotypically American) deep ignorance of French history and culture.
I wasn't using stereotypes. I was using historical references to how the French refused to aid America in the revolutionary war unless they directly gained from it.
I was also alluding to how the French aristocracy used to starve the peasants and overindulge.
You've managed to pivot from idiot to twat. Take a breather.
Let's do per capita then:
"hundreds of protesters" (we'll round up to 1000) of 5.5 million => 0.018%
5 million of 347 million => 1.4%
I assume the original comment was a joke but glad you to get to feel so high and mighty about it.
I’m really not sure what you’re trying to prove.
In one country 0.018% rocks up at a moment’s notice for a guy they could care less about and has no real effect on their lives, isn’t deporting their families or screwing them out of medicare. He’s not disrespecting their vets or pulling them off food stamps. He’s coming over to golf, that’s the extent of the relation.
They just don’t like him and will make some time on whatever Sunday he rocks up to tell him that.
Compare that to to 1.4% (barely 100x more) protesting after years of crimes, n and proud admissions of rape, child molestation, cheating at 3 elections, being illegitimate installed as president right now, impeachments, thousands of illegal deportations of fellow citizens or countrymen, complete bonkers enrichment with crypto scams, gross incompetence on lots of levels, including militarily and economically, embroiled in scandal after scandal
So after MONTHS of organising, there were 2 protests which had over 1% of the population out on the streets. And now… nothing. Not even a general strike. Because the free markets are so free, you freely would like to express your freedom of expression if you only were actually free.
Have a look at when that magical 1% threshold was breached in other countries historically and for what reasons.
And while you’re there, look at what happened after. Typically when you have 1% protests, they are met with action from the goverment. Promises and changes are made to appease the protesters. Back in the USA, they went home, and stayed home. Deportations continued afterwards. And then a bill was signed to make ICE the new gestapo and become the biggest domestic paramilitary organisation in the world.
Not sure why anyone would ever try to claim “Americans are great protesters, and love civil action”.
"Barely 100x more."
Sorry to hear your american ass couldn’t read all of my response. I’ll try to be briefer next time.
I'm just making fun of your dumb statement, not trying to address anything else.
When it comes to collective, coordinated, public opposition to a government: 1% is noteworthy, 3% is a crisis, more is a revolution.
The rest of your comment is glorified hot air.
"Why not organize a simple general strike" actually laughing out loud at that one.
200 million+ people, in a country with many laws specifically designed to curtail general striking, with no trusted access to each other, dispersed over thousands of miles, with all social support networks carefully dismantled over decades, with most of them living paycheck to paycheck and 0 social saftey net...
Should just nod at each other and agree not to work tomorrow. Clearly a lack of moral fiber in those bloody Yanks 🧐
If you really think your opinions hold any water on a wildly different country halfway across the globe, just keep your mouth shut. Unless you want to keep making a fool of yourself I guess.
Easier to argue with me than actually doing something hey?
You’re making my point: the level of constitutional crisis you’re at snd have been at for at least a year, warrants slightly more than a twice “noteworthy” protest. That’s the argument.
You can lay off the personalised attacks, I’m just explaining the core point, which you exemplify perfectly: yanks will find excuse after excuse not to make meaningful social change vs any other western democracy.
And it’s 300+ million. And all the other reasons hopefully will soon begin becoming reasons to go and not excuses to not go.
People aren’t calling you names, they’re just genuinely wondering how much worse you need before things get to your magical 3% threshold.
Because it’s pretty bad.
I mean you’re lashing out at me, that’s how bad, and you’ve never done that before.
You have no clue what I'm doing, and I couldn't be making your argument because you don't have an argument. You're just lobbing complaints at a strawman 'Murican with no basis in reality.
I didn't say 300 because some people did vote for him and are genuinely locked in their isolation bubble. If you think well over 50% of the population doesn't count as a crippling general strike, I don't know what to tell you.
And having the gall to compare a few hundred people showing up to protest a golf outing to organizing a seismic political shift in a massive country is absurd. It's the pinnacle of throwing stones in glass houses while the UK meekly accepts digital privacy surveillance and suppression of political speech on Gaza. Where's your fucking critique of that???
Apparently just laying out the facts of life in America is making an excuse. Nowhere did I say we should lay down and take it, but you armchair political activists aren't happy unless you see headlines about car bombs or some shit. God forbid you adjust yourself to the context of reality, just shout loudmouth transatlantic complaints. The lack of self-awareness is incredible, you've become your own despised Fox News caricature.
"People aren't calling you names", no it's way worse than that. They're trying to direct how I should act in my own country about matters that, at best, only tangentially concern them. That's why you should keep your mouth shut. Worry about how your own damn government is reacting to tariffs and NATO balancing and not how I need to fix my political nightmare for your personal peace of mind.
It's because they convinced those people to vote for him. At least 1/3 of the country loves this guy, and a lot of people are scared of ICE or that other 1/3. None of those problems exist there.
More people should be active, but I'm not a fan of just shitting on everything people do because it's not enough. That's a quick easy to make people stop doing anything.
That's impressive, we shouldn't be shitting on it as not enough.
I’m not shitting on it, and it is not enough at the same time.
I’m amazed at the yanks coming out of the woodwork in this thread.
You as a collective citizenry have not stepped up. At all. Barely ⅓ voted for him. Probably closer to 20~25% liked him over the other. I’m sure that’s gone down significantly.
There is not a single person outside the US who is watching this who thinks the yanks are doing enough. It’s great there was one big protest, but it is a far cry from a proportionate response to the crisis levelled at you.
Instead of attacking people here on Lemmy, I would organise. This isn’t shaming or slamming, it is constructive criticism because as much as we would all want to, we aren’t in any capacity to come land on your beaches anytime soon. And half of you still thinks the midterms will bring reason and mediation to this madness.