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Someone explain this to me: https://iris.org.il/images/israel-and-arab-world.gif
All the countries in yellow are Arab.
The little tiny slice in the middle in blue is Jewish and in that blue even the West Bank and Gaza are part of that blue island and are mostly occupied by the Arabs.
And these Arab nations believe that the Israel should not belong to the Jews and some (strongly) believe they should be wiped off the earth.
Why? Why is not the 99% of that land that belongs to the Arabs not enough for them?
Where are the Jews supposed to go?
Look at a map of Europe, it's all Europeans. Why did Europeans feel the need to create a settler colony in the middle east to send Jews that weren't safe in Europe?
I dunno but they did. Probably so the Nazis wouldn't hunt them down and exterminate them all like they tried to do in the 40s?
Why shouldnt they have their own country?
Why don't you give up your house? Canada is safer than the middle east right? Let them take yous. Why shouldn't they
White people live all over the world just let them have your house wtf
They were occupants of that land before and during the same time as the Arabs.
Oh really? All the European descendants who moved there and the currently living fascist Israeli government lived there at the same time as "the Arabs" (who as we all know are a single unified people). My bad that definitely excuses a Western military backed European settlement being declared on land where people already existed, propping up an apartheid ethnostate.
I'd make a comparison to the indigenous peoples of North and South America, but unfortunately we Canadians genocided them so hard that a foreign power can't declare Ontario to be theirs and allow people from all over the world claiming indigenous heritage to come settle here and get treated as a higher caste with additional rights and privileges.
So where were they supposed to go after the Nazis tried to eliminate them? They dont have ancestral or religious ties to other European lands or America or Canada or Australia or Asia or Africa so where?
Hey moron: why were they fleeing Europe if they had no ties
They lived there for a long time before the Holocaust
Maybe the allied should have given them some sort citizenship instead of treating Holocaust survivors as alien immigrants. They were literally expelled by the allies lmao
Give them Austria or some European country that participated in the Nazi side of the WW2 conflict as reparations for the Holocaust.
Instead colonial powers of the world gave a land that already had a population with mixed ethnicity to a minority in that area, then armed them and backed them to take everything from the majority.
Do they not have historical and religious connections to the land of Israel with roots dating back thousands of years?
They have a historical religious connection to a land from thousands of years and want the right to return there but don't believe the people that live there currently in Gaza and as refugees around the world have the right to return to their homeland, some literally have deeds for homes that Jewish settlers moved into after their families were forced out in the Naqba.
I would dispute that they have a DNA connection to that actual land as the Israeli govt has issues with Jewish people taking DNA tests because they are likely to show no DNA connection to historic Palestine and mostly connection to Europe and Russia.
How is it an excuse to bomb people asshole?
Zionists are the rich jews who paid the nazis to let them go and kill their fellow poor jews instead.
You literally agrees with the nazis about jews not belonging in Europe lmao
Because when they did they used it to bomb civilians for decades
That's a rather odd way to express complete ignorance of the whole concept of history, not to mention geography and culture.
Canadian Jews have a safe, democratic country that cherishes them and wants them to thrive and that country is called Canada.
If you're asking about Israeli Jews, your answer is the same in principle as for any other ethno-religious group in the Levant (Druze, Maronite, Sunni, Antiochian, Alawite, Shia, Beduin, Kurdish etc). There is nothing cosmically special or exceptional about Jewish people, as there is nothing cosmically special or exceptional about Alewites. To claim so would be pure antisemitism. So what should they do? Play nice with the other communities, and build a plurinational, inclusive democratic state with equal rights for all people of all and of no sects. The Jews don't deserve anything more or anything less than any other levantine ethnicity/religious group. Human Rights and Democracy for all.
Edit: or some sort of balkanization I guess. Small homegeneous statelets at the mercy of bigger powers. Meh. Democracy is better.
Thank you for a civilized and reasonable answer. There are some other small brained, rabid respondents here who could learn from you.
The Palestinian people have a right to self-determination.
Go deny genocide and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights somewhere else.
Whoa. Whose denying anything? I'm asking questions.
You know exactly what you're doing. Go away. Genocide denial not welcome here.
Im asking legitimate questions trying to understand an international crisis. Youre making massive assumptions based on your own prejudice.
Do you people still think "I'm asking questions" isn't transparent af?
There are jews in palestine
"Arabs" aren't an uniform entity.
Would you go explain a guy in vancouver that we bombed your house because Canada have all the land from Nova Scotia to alaska? What a shit excuse to defend population forced departure.
Why don't you give back some land to the miqmaqs
I don't know if you'll find devil advocates willing to entertain such a hyperbolic frame of reference.
There are people out there who also think that Arabs should be wiped off the earth, but I don't think it's worth asking why. Makes more sense to shun those people off than giving them space for discourse.
Iran hasn't said that Jews should be wiped off the face of the earth? One quick google says otherwise: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/27/israel.iran
Oh I don't know maybe it's all the war crimes, bombing of civilians, spoilation and forced deportation?