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[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 10 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (15 children)

Imagine being ticketed for walking the wrong way down a sidewalk or crossing the street. At intersections pedestrians generally have the right of way unless it's signalized (or a car is already inside the intersection).

Cyclist are pedestrians.

These kind of stories almost read as "car is king" and all other modes of travel (walking, running, cycling) are required to conform around the car. Next thing you know grandma will get a ticket for riding her mobility scooter the wrong way down a sidewalk.

The main issue is improper Infrastructure. Streets are destinations and Roads are throughways. Street are multi-use and should be designed as such.

This is a street. It's a destination where local pedestrians have the right of way.

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This is a "strode" its a neither a street or a road. Car rule and use these as throughways.

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This is a road. It's a proper throughway with no street parking or driveways. Reduced conflict zones such as no intersections or left turn.

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Also obligatory:

Emotos, ie. "Self powered" high speed electric motorcycles should be treated similar to regular motorcycles or cars.

Ebikes ie. "Pedal assist" or "human-powered" bicycles are low speed and similar in nature to regular bicycles or in some cases "mobility devices" like grandmas mobility scooter.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 28 points 23 hours ago (11 children)

Cyclist are pedestrians.

Unless you mean this in some very unconventional way — absolutely not. Bicycles are vehicles.

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 0 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

I would agree any item that is used to transport goods or people in any way is considered a vehicle, but i would add the term "vehicle" is somewhat loose in meaning or interpretation.

There are two distinct classes of vehicles though. Self-powered and Human-powered.

Self-powered vehicles. Example, an aircraft, car, tank, truck, motorcycle, scooter.

Human-powered vehicles. Example, a bicycle, unicycle, balance bicycles, scooter, dandy horse, handcar, draisine, shoping cart, and maybe even shoes?

Now the reason I believe classifying cyclists as pedestrians, is because it would require a "shift" in how infrastructure is designed within our towns and cities.

The city "strode" is a unsafe place for a pedestrian or people in general to be (as it's currently designed). Classifying a cyclist as a pedestrian would highlight the need that the equivalent of "sidewalk infrastructure" is required for the well-being of people on a bicycle.

Now imagine yourself walking (in your shoes) on a city "strode" in the middle of a lane, it feels "wrong". So why do we force all ages of people on a bicycle to do this?

[–] LilB0kChoy@piefed.social 3 points 19 hours ago

I saw this same story from another source in a different post (https://archive.is/sZYDO).

There’s one specific paragraph in that article that is not covered in this one:

New York City has begun a crackdown on e-bikes and scooters riders. It follows actions by city officials from Paris to Honolulu to Hoboken, N.J., who are responding to residents angry about zippy vehicles with silent electric motors zooming down sidewalks and streets, often startling people, and occasionally hitting pedestrians.

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