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This is very exciting. Here is the APK I downloaded. And the associated discussion.

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It even already seems to support stylus input which is very exciting seeing as there has been talk of porting RNote to Android.

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It does that for all clients

You just need to wait for the proof of work to complete

[–] sxan@midwest.social 7 points 1 day ago (4 children)

You just need to wait for the proof of work to complete

I will never find the irony in this anything other than pathetic.

The one legitimate grievance against Bitcoin and other POW cryptocurrencies - the wasteful burning of energy to do throw-away calculations simply to prove the work has been done... the environmental cost of distributed scale meaningless CPU cycle waste purely for the purpose of wasting CPU cycles, has been so eagerly grasped by people who are largely doing it to foil another energy wasteful infotech invention.

It really is astonishing.

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

either you have the service with anubis or you have no service at all

unlike pyramid coins, anubis serves a purpose

[–] sxan@midwest.social 5 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

It still uses Proof-of-Work, in which the coal being burned is only to prove that you burned the coal.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 hours ago

Everything uses energy

Do you have any measurements on power usage? It seems very minor.

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works -2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 2 points 12 hours ago

Not many, but I sure wish all.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 14 hours ago

The point is to make it too expensive for them, so they leave you alone (or, ideally, totally die but that's a long way off). They're making a choice to harvest data on your site. Make them choose not to. It saves energy in the long run.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 hours ago

Do you have a better way? It is way more private than anything else I've seen.

From a energy usage perspective it also isn't bad. Spiking the CPU for a few seconds is minor especially compared to other tasks.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I willl never find the irony in how tech literate people still make assumptions about technology without reading up on it.

Proof of work does not equal mass power usage. The proof of work here is fingerprinting.

It really is astonishing.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Do you understand how Proof-of-Work works? Perhaps you can give me an ELI5 that shows that it does not use the client's CPU to perform calculations for only the purpose of proving that the client's CPU performed the calculations?

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I do, yes, you are just too crypto-focused. Anubis uses the result of the PoW to fingerprint, I.E. to do a job greater than just the calculation. It's also an extremely efficient alg. I won't read the docs for you, but feel free to read them first if you would like to discuss it further.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 1 points 13 hours ago

It's also an extremely efficient alg.

Not if it's an effective proof-of-work anti-scraping mechanism. The point of these are to make it prohibitively expensive for scrapers to harvest data.

A mire energy efficient way to do this is with lags and tar pits, which do not cause CPU cycles to be wasted.

Any mechanism - any - that uses proof-of-work is by definition wasting CPU cycles. If there's a useful waste product, like boinc, where the work that's proved to be done is science, then the POW isn't pure waste energy. There are certainly more efficient ways of generating fingerprints than PoW; Google and Facebook are peerless at fingerprinting without any PoW at all. The value of these ~~fingerprint coins~~ tokens is entirely incidental to the real purpose: to cost the scraper CPU cycles, cost them energy, and make scraping less profitable.

Anubis is all of the execution cost of cryptocurrency, without the financial flavoring.

[–] PumaStoleMyBluff@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It actually doesn't do that for all clients, according to the docs

It'll let you straight through if your user agent doesn't contain "Mozilla"

[–] Linearity@infosec.pub 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Whaaaat? Why only look for Mozilla?

[–] LunaChocken@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

Because it's super common in web scrapers

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I did but it told me I'm a bot :(

Edit: Yay, it worked.