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[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This might be a kind of unpopular opinion but in a way I'm glad that schools are going to have to confront this issue. They're very well placed to do so.

While teachers being abused obviously have my sympathies, the school system can't ignore this problem and then act shocked when this behavior appears in schools.

  • training for all teachers on how to manage this behavior and this trajectory for kids
  • social media literacy should be part of the curriculum for kids in all years
  • awareness programs and training for parents
  • exposure to more appropriate role models who can help young boys understand how to interact with women
  • advocating for regulation of social media - it's just bullshit that youtube et al gives this bullshit a platform
[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Parents are a big part of this problem. Teachers report behaviors and give recommendations, the parents then deny it happens, or refuse to follow a regimen with their child.

A good admin helps, but most try to smooth it over with the parents so the bullshit continue s.

My kids are (and were--one quit already) teachers. They had younger grades say grade 3-5 and kids are searching porn, telling them to go fuck themselves, stealing their belongings.

Their whole "teaching" time is managing classroom behaviours. Parents called in to talk about the kid, has had parents verbally abuse the teacher and being spit on by the dad. Police had to come.

Even at the grade 1-3 level they had parents sending chat messages the whole time to some kids...so obviously the kid won't put their phone away when asked.

And then there are the entitled parents. One kid has challenges (parents claim autism, teachers just say its lack of any structure at home) so kid gets to free roam the class when overwhelmed, while everyone works. Parents then come in to complain that their child feels isolated when freeroaming the classroom and asked the teacher to allow free roam for all students so their kid doesn't feel bad. Wtf.

Just a complete mess of disrespect and unwillingness to focus on working. Parents don't reinforce work habits either. Its a bumpy ride

[–] jimjam5@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Hell yes. As a former educator myself, I resonated deeply with all of the bullshit. Teachers can be the most proper and correct role models for students doing everything perfectly and going above and beyond, but it don’t mean shit if parents don’t also support the student/child in correcting their misbehavior.

And don’t even get me started on the trend of accommodations and how they were both overused and yet poorly understood by students/parents.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 points 2 days ago

I feel like COVID did a number on the socialization of kids that's going to be studied for generations. It is likely made worse by parents who couldn't/didn't spend time to address this.

[–] Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You say that, but then they trot out “boys will be boys” time and time again.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago

Not necessarily.

Female teachers are resigning over this.

[–] funkyfarmington@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

All of that is irrelevant without administrators being on board. And that will never happen.

[–] Policeshootout@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm not sure why you assume this but my wife and I both work in high school (grade 8 - 12) which is part of a small, fairly conservative community. Our administrative staff all the way up to superintendent are extremely supportive of these types of things. Inclusion and awareness is very important at our high school for everyone. We also have social media education introduced in multiple classes. About 3/4 of all staff are female and neither of us have witnessed this type of misogynistic behavior. Our struggle is racism, antisemitism and intolerance.

I'm not saying that misogyny isn't a problem, I experience it on instagram and YouTube all the time and the comment sections are insane. My point is that administration does care, we are encouraged to include this type of education in our curriculum and we talk about it during staff meetings.

[–] Canadian_anarchist@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

Unfortunately not all administrators care, and some can be part of the problem. The school I work at has some endemic culture issues because of the "old boys" club that has been formed by the principal. I am glad that you have supportive administration, but that is less common than it should be.