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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So is burning fossil fuels during a climate apocalypse. Gotta make some tough choices.

[–] scott@lemmy.org -5 points 1 week ago (4 children)

This is a policy which will hit the poor first and hardest. That's contrary to all realistic and beneficial climate action. How about banning cruise ships docking at ports in the country?

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

I think you have no idea how polluting motorbikes are in the 3rd world. And if any are still 2 stroke, yikes. As with any electric vehicles, there is a up front cost but the lower maintenance, longevity, and electricity instead of gas is much cheaper. And we're talking scooters, the price Delta is a lot lower than for cars.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 week ago

I don’t know enough about Vietnam to speak to the transportation options there but in most parts of the world there are good low-carbon alternatives now. E-bicycles in particular are an affordable transit revolution that should be affordable to anyone who can afford a motorbike.

People who burn fossil fuels are not the poorest of the poor. The real poor are the ones who will suffer and die if we don’t get off of fossil fuels immediately.

I would personally go a lot further than this narrow policy but given the current emergency I can’t really be critical of any move in the right direction.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

The poor are the ones who have to breathe the largest amount of the most densely polluted air.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

They plan to buy half a million electrics for impoverished areas. Which isn't nearly enough, but it's a start.

btw, this is what Hanoi regularly looks like during winter.

[–] scott@lemmy.org 1 points 1 week ago

That's definitely a big step. I've seen swappable battery packs from China that could make it pretty realistic too if they're actually subsidizing it.