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[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 9 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

This somehow completely disregards the most critical side-effect of overpolulation esepcially when you calculate in dying oceans and trees.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide

The sustainable capacity was calculated to be around 2 billion. This is not affected by food output.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

So farm less cattle and get away from fossil fuels.

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

So what you're saying is that earth under 8-9 billion people isn't sustainable and we need to start sacrificing our cars and meat due to overpolulation?

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I mean those are good decisions anyway, I would 1000% rather take 30 minute nap on a train/bys or ride a bike/electric motorcycle on the way to work than sit in traffic for an hour. As for meat, I'm not vegan, but I could be if seiten was more common.

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

There is almost no public transport outside cities. I don't remember the last time I had the opportunity to use one.

As for meat, I'm not vegan, but I could be if seiten was more common.

It's not just meat. Milk, cheese and related products (pizza?), clothing, oils, gas production, ectera ectera. Even fertilizer for crops. I'd rather have sustainable earth population than give up things that make me happy

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Have you tried the alternatives lately? Impossible meat is indistinguishable from the real thing, and Quorn combined with some marmite or chicken flavoring is an excellent affordable alternative to beef and chicken.

Plant milks are pretty damn good, vegan cheese is getting close.

The others I'm a little surprised make you happier than alternatives. Plant fibers are the bomb for clothes, gas production is... Not something I associate with happiness. Mushroom leather is looking very promising as a replacement for animal leather.

Plant oils are easily as good as animal fats.