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Irish tourist jailed by ICE for months after overstaying US visit by three days: ‘Nobody is safe’
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 15 Jul 2025
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And he was locked up before Trump took office.
This applies to all aspects of the US "justice" system. Once it has a hold of you, it's extremely hard to get out.
Yes, it was before, but, there is a little more to it. It was a mental health episode and the police were called. One would think they would just have an air marshall fly back home with him, But the US is really not good at mental health problems.
Regardless, imprisoning him for months is completely indefensible.
Should have been a psychiatric eval and a trip home. If it would have happened the month or two earlier probably would have went down like that. He had the bad luck to have a break and still be locked up when everything was getting DOGEd
I mean, how else do you expect the present industrial complex to make all the money that it does?
Shit, presents are evil now too
Who do you think makes all the gifts for Santa?
Hahahah. That's my favorite STT error of ALL TIME!
Support the elves! The present industrial complex must go on!!!
(Prison. I meant for it to type prison. HAHAHAHAH)
So you're saying this happened under Biden? Not sure whether this is the dunk-on-Trump that people think it is >_>
It's not really a dunk on Trump though is it, it's a dunk on ICE, which Trump values very highly and loudly
Nobody can hold a candle to 'deporter-in-chief' Obama. Secretly, the Democrats have been much harder and more effective on deportations and the border for decades.
And that excuses the inhuman trash breaking into homes with explosives to drag parents from their children?
I didn't say that. I was only pointing out how bad the Democrats have been, while not needing to go to the current ICE tactics. Holman was brought to us by Obama even. We've gone past the point where the deportations are the point; it's the fear and repression of the entire population. And we've not even seen the half of it once ICE gets its new budget, it will get much worse!
Have you been asleep for 6 months?
Going back through their history, looks like they're REALLY into the democrats deport more people line, completely failing to realize the numbers for Biden and Obama are on a scale of years where the current administration is at about 100 days. Ignoring that due process was happening and It is not now, also ignoring the current tactic of ziptieing unprocessed people together and dropping them out of planes in to the pacific which is just straight murder.
Excuse me, can you elaborate on that last part? Dropping people out of planes doesn't pass the sniff test for me.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/07/01/trump-admin-deportees-spain/
Nothing Iron clad, but they strap people together in a peculiar manner and some corpses showed up strapped that way
Also some of the deportation flights have been watched via individuals using ADSB and they're making flights to nowhere over the ocean and coming back. Again, nothing iron clad, but probably sniff worthy
I don't know why you act like I am defending Trump, I am only trying to point out that Democrats were still mass deporting people. Trump is historically evil and will probably blow the Obama/Biden numbers out once ICE gets the new budget. But, this has been standard US policy since 9/11 basically.
For example - https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/trump-2-immigration-first-100-days or https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-deportation-record
My point is that Trump could easily accomplish the same thing if mass deportations was his chief goal, because the Democrats were already doing that. Biden deported 685k in one year according to the Federal Register, if you want to discount the source and provide other numbers that is fine. I'm not trying to argue tactics, because frankly what the Dems and GOP have been doing (at least since 9/11) related to deportations and immigration has been illegal to unconstitutional in a variety of ways. Claiming asylum under international law is a defined legal process and even Obama and Biden were not following that process.
Look even at the article this thread is in, this Irish tourist was jailed when Biden was President for overstaying his VISA for 3 days, even though he wanted to leave. That is pretty horrible behavior. Again, not saying Trump is better by any means, easily he is far worse.
We know. We know that Democrats also deported people. They went after actual criminals (and I guess people who had overstayed their visa), and the people had due process.
They were not being hunted on job sites, outside of their immigration hearings (you know, "doing it the right way"), Home Depot parking lots, etc. They were not sending people to a concentration camp in a third country that the person has zero connection to.
So when people constantly feel the need to "both sides" this issue, it comes off as ignorant (at best. More likely just being disingenuous). When it's the same person again and again (according to another reply), then it starts to seem like a pattern...
It shouldn't need to be fucking said that what's happening right now is not precedented in this country. The closest thing would be Japanese internment camps, but I believe this is far worse.
Failing to hold Democrats accountable for their own behavior by focusing only on Trump will only allow the Democrats to follow this downward spiral. The Democratic party doesn't see the evil in their own past behavior and that's a key part of why they cannot effectively counter Trump with any of this.
Yeah just ignore everything I said, I guess.
You're one to talk! This is literally on a thread about guy detained while BIDEN was President! There is a legit reason to both sides this issue. We have to press the Democratic party to stop moving to the right of the Republicans, and you can't do that if you don't talk about it. There is a clear connection to the Democrats laying the groundwork that have directly helped lead us to the situation we're now in with Trump.
Biden deported more people than trump first term. Your problem isn't with the idea of deportation, it's with the form lmao
Look, it wouldn't surprise me at this point, it's more or less just the next step, but where did you hear they were dropping people out of planes?
can't find the newer one
snopes has some balanced coverage
https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/07/01/trump-admin-deportees-spain/
Of course nothing is iron clad. We know how they've been strapping people together, for the flights. dead people strapped together that way showed up on a beach.
I guess we'll have to wait until they're identified but it's bad enough that there's the possibility, which is saying alot.
People being strapped that way, coming from another source, would be one hell of a coincidence.
Same with the people tracking the planes. Rear-hatched cargo planes out over the sea and back. That's not even a test or training flight; you'd do that over land. Maybe the people are wrong. It would honestly be nice for this to be a red herring.