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One of the core societal demands of the prophet Mohamed, blessings and peace be upon him, was to end the practice of burying daughters alive. At the time a daughter was considered a disgrace, so some pre-islamic Arabs murdered their daughters this way.
The Quran is also very explicit about the rights of women and the correct behavior towards them, something that is often ignored in societies that claim to be muslim, but evidently did not read much.
"OG Islam" is fundamentally opposed to femicide. Femicides aren't a religious but a cultural issue and prevalent outside of religious groups too.
"Don't kill women" making "OG Islam" somehow "better" is a pretty low fucking bar.
Nearly all religion is a regressive cancer on society used as a scapegoat to do terrible things.
That's ignoring their point, though. They are simply pointing out that the father in this article is not following the Quran, they're following some other twisted ideology that uses the Quran as an excuse, despite the source material explicitly telling them not to do this type of behavior.
As a side note, I'm not religious, and I do believe that organized religion has been the cause of horrible atrocities. I just think your response isn't really addressing what the other person was debating, but maybe I'm wrong.
Fun fact: The Quran doesn't feature into these, not even as an excuse. My reply to the parent comment has more details, but people who do these vile acts take "honor violations warrant death" to be an axiom on its own, just as a birthday warrants a celebration and a sick family member warrants a visit. I mean, there's a reason the words "Islam" and "religion" feature exactly 0 times in the article.
To be fair, the article does start of with referring to Pakistan as "Muslim-majority country". This is probably where the association came from.
What? That's not what a scapegoat is, idiot
A scapegoat is someone used to blame as an alternative to yourself. Religion isn't really a "person", but it's often used as a way to shift blame away with a "God told me to do it" and God is considered a person driving most religions.
It's really not that hard to understand what I meant from context clues and, given my comment's positive voting average and your negative one, you seem to be in the minority of not getting it.
It's true, rights for women in the Islamic world and their treatment is far better than in the western world!
Exactly!
I really wish the west would catch up to the Islamic world with how it treats its women. I especially like how they are so progressive when it comes to gays and lesbians, inshallah !
/s
I think it's best you include "/s" in this one!
updated thanks!
Seems to me that Islam is discriminating strongly against women, and that could absolutely be a factor to prevent this sick culture from being abandoned.
I know there are Muslims who are good people, but I don't think the religion is helping.
I knew many Muslims when I lived in Copenhagen, from many different countries, and common for the men were that they were way more discriminating against women than is normally acceptable among cultural Danes. They also commonly claimed that the women preferred it that way! For instance regarding very stereotypical strong gender roles.
I also don't believe the honor thing is without heavy influence from religion, and religion is helping preserve these medieval standards in modern times.
I know there are Muslims that are more modern and more moral, and just like most Christians have abandoned ancient doctrines that are clearly bad.
It just seems to me that Islam has not progressed away from such practices as much as Christianity generally has.
For instance by far the most Muslims still believe apostasy is a sin that should be punished. In a modern society that is unacceptable.
Muhammad wanting to save all the young girls? For himself?
Yawn. Now talk about Sharia courts and Sharia law, where a woman can be sentenced to death for ~~being raped~~ cheating, ~~female genital mutilation is allowed~~ and generally, women ~~can be sentenced to death~~ given appropriate sentences and outside Muslim men ~~deny Sharia law to outsiders~~ keep the sacred secrets of Islam between themselves.
That's not what the official guidebook says though. You can lie or be in denial, but we can read.
I mean... no? Like, like it or hate it the Quran is pretty clear about this. If you disagree, then give me a verse number.
lol. Even scholars agree that its full of misogynistic bullshit that should be read in a symbolic way. Nice try though but we've had this debate for decades.
Then give them the verse number like they asked.
Good god, they haven't read their own book?
Nope, you haven't. That's why they are asking you for a verse that says what you claim it says.
Cool, a lot of muslims seem to be in the modern Islam where they hate women and control the shit out of their every move though. So what prophet boy wanted and what we got by his clown ass followers is two different things.