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Red meat has a huge carbon footprint because cattle requires a large amount of land and water.

https://sph.tulane.edu/climate-and-food-environmental-impact-beef-consumption

Demand for steaks and burgers is the primary driver of Deforestation:

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2022-beef-industry-fueling-amazon-rainforest-destruction-deforestation/

https://e360.yale.edu/features/marcel-gomes-interview

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2023-06-02/almost-a-billion-trees-felled-to-feed-appetite-for-brazilian-beef

If you don't have a car and rarely eat red meat, you are doing GREAT πŸ™ŒπŸ™Œ πŸ™Œ

Sure, you can drink tap water instead of plastic water. You can switch to Tea. You can travel by train. You can use Linux instead of Windows AI's crap. Those are great ideas. But, don't drive yourself crazy. If you are only an ordinary citizen, remember that perfect is the enemy of good.

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[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 17 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Increasing the bag limit on "billionaire" to something greater than "0" would have a much more appreciable effect on the climate than a thousand families forgoing children.

[–] lemsip@sh.itjust.works 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I am so confused by this comment.

What's a bag limit? Why would you apply it to the word "billionaire", and why would increasing the limit help the climate?

Are you saying billionaires should use less bags? Because I doubt that would help more than having 1000+ less humans on this planet.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 8 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] lemsip@sh.itjust.works 5 points 17 hours ago

Thanks. Never heard that term before so I thought you were talking about plastic bags and worded it weird as fuck lol.

[–] Semester3383@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Remove the bag limit, put a bounty on them. Anyone that murks a billionaire wins a 2000 ft^2 home (or condo, whatever) in the location of their choice, with all taxes, fees, and utilities paid for as long as they live there.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world -2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Kill all the billionaires -> another crop step in to fill the power vacuum - likely more likely to hire excellent security teams.

Revolution, overthrow capitalism -> the power hungry psychopaths who wanted to be billionaires pivot and seek positions in seats of government power. They continue living lives of opulant luxury on the public largess, and propagate fossil fuel and factory farming industries since this is one of the ways they skim their wealth from the public coffers.

Reform, throw out all the opulant bureaucrats. Maybe murder them. Introduce a new level of transparency in government. Install leaders who follow the public will, even to their own detriment. But the public will likes things mostly the way they are, and doesn't want to give up their cars because they are used to them and see them as a symbol of their success in achieving whatever socioeconomic status, and doesn't want to give up meat because meat is delicious. Because everyone likes getting things for free and the elected representatives do exactly what the public demands, entitlement programs grow rapidly while taxes stay the same or get lower. No one does work, because perfect communist utopia provides people with all their needs, so people just spend all their time driving cars and eating meat. A few do-gooders talk about how we are destroying the environment and going bankrupt. Everyone tells them to shut up and stop being nerds.

Economy collapses due to no incentive to work. Everyone admits that capitalism was pretty flawed, but was still pretty good at getting people to build houses and shit even when they would rather be driving cars and eating meat. Start capitalism again, but with better rules about lobbying and regulatory capture and all that jazz. Also, better education and support for children so the next generation grows up less fucking stupid. Elect good politicians who are good at spinning necessary hardships to their constituents. Apply a carbon tax to meat and gas and give people the tax money directly, because most people feel like they come out ahead when they get free money.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 points 10 hours ago

Government performs services, and acceptd payment for those services in the form of taxation. The thing that is missing is the recognition that the powers exercised by government are possessed by We The People. We own those powers. We "invest" those powers in the government, who uses those powers to provide paid services to its customers.

We are each owed a return on our "investment" of political authority. Our political authority should not be given to the government freely. We should be individually compensated for it.

We are shareholders.

Universal Basic Income is one possible method of compensating the citizenry for the use of our political authority.