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All your points are solid except this one. This one just gives the pro-birthers ammunition to use and strengthen a belief. Something which does not exist nor has any consciousness isn't capable of the concept of consent. Consent is a social construct created by humans (which unfortunately not everyone believes in), but a fetus isn't yet human (in your example, it's not even a fetus but the concept of a human, which is even further abstract. This is like complaining a painting did not consent to existing).
It also is a rationally failed thought in that such a hypothetical still non existent being also can't communicate a desire to exist. It can't communicate anything, actually.
Projecting your own depression into it doesn't help anyone, including yourself.
Consent exists outside of humans, it just what we've decided to call "respecting autonomy".
I don't think it is forced birther ammo. Something that does not exist cannot consent. A fetus is just a collection of cells, it has the same ability to consent as a finger or a liver, in the vast majority of abortions it has no more individual identity than a tumor. Consent of the fetus shouldn't be a criteria for abortion anyway, it's consent of the individual that it is taking resources from that matters.