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Red meat has a huge carbon footprint because cattle requires a large amount of land and water.

https://sph.tulane.edu/climate-and-food-environmental-impact-beef-consumption

Demand for steaks and burgers is the primary driver of Deforestation:

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2022-beef-industry-fueling-amazon-rainforest-destruction-deforestation/

https://e360.yale.edu/features/marcel-gomes-interview

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2023-06-02/almost-a-billion-trees-felled-to-feed-appetite-for-brazilian-beef

If you don't have a car and rarely eat red meat, you are doing GREAT 🙌🙌 🙌

Sure, you can drink tap water instead of plastic water. You can switch to Tea. You can travel by train. You can use Linux instead of Windows AI's crap. Those are great ideas. But, don't drive yourself crazy. If you are only an ordinary citizen, remember that perfect is the enemy of good.

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[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Affidavit@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

That is an unhelpful response. OP is talking about actions individuals can take and you provided a single word response with a link to overall climate change sources, most of which individuals have no control over (beyond voting).

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I provided a link that directly disproves what OP is saying. How is it not helpful? It’s far more helpful than the original post by the merit of it not being a blatant lie.

Agriculture provenly provides roughly between 10% and a potential 20% of the pollution problem. And that’s including both livestock and equipment/vehicles. That still a lot, sure… but it’s not close to what these people would have you believe.

You’re totally fine to keep eating meat if that is what you enjoy in your diet. It’s barely making a dent in the bigger picture. Don’t let them stonewall you into changing what you enjoy just to meet their standards.

But… If you want to seriously fight greenhouse gases, and not just another vegan trying to bury the real motivation here- then go after big industry. Agriculture barely scratches what they’re doing.

Here’s more sources if you’d like, but they all just say the same thing.

https://www.rff.org/publications/explainers/agricultural-greenhouse-gas-emissions-101/

https://www.ewg.org/news-insights/news/2024/10/will-agriculture-be-americas-leading-source-greenhouse-gas-emissions

https://ourworldindata.org/ghg-emissions-by-sector

[–] DistrictSIX@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It’s barely making a dent in the bigger picture.

This is the silliest argument of all, it's just a recipe for feeling completely helpless and perhaps turning into a total nihilist. Almost nothing you do as an individual will make a dent in the bigger picture, you being one individual and the bigger picture being the bigger picture. Going after big industry? You think you as an individual have a chance of making a dent in the bigger picture if you "go after big industry", whatever that means? No, no dent, bigger picture remains. That doesn't mean you shouldn't try though, because trying is all you as a single individual can do. If the only things worth doing are the things that "make a dent in the bigger picture", then you as a single individual would be absolutely irrelevant. Nothing you do would be worth doing. That's no way to live.

"Whatever you do in life will be insignificant but it is very important that you do it, because you can't know." -Gandhi

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Fair argument. Though… it seems no one has a problem with OP’s post being a complete lie so long as they agree with the message.

I find this interesting. It makes me wonder if anyone that accepts this lie as a means to a better end, has ever called out any lies themselves.

I guess I’m just fascinated with hypocrisy.