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[–] Balaquina@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 day ago (35 children)

Not a day goes by that I don't regret installing that on my phone.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 38 points 1 day ago (18 children)

This... Except for contactless payment.
I used graphene for a month. It was lovely. Even things like banking apps worked.
I don't care about absolute privacy, but I do care about controlling my privacy. Grapheme gave me that.

I had only 1 issue.
Contactless payment.
It's extremely convenient to me, from public transport to groceries. I just bop my phone.

The fact that Google has that locked down surely violates some EU laws. But I'm sure they wave away the laws because of "financial security" or some other bullshit.
As if bank card NFC/contactless doesn't suffer exactly the same issues.
I looked into some "graphene contactless payment" type systems or workarounds, and I couldn't find anything that would fill the gap.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This may seem like a silly solution but maybe pop your debit card inside your phone case. It should bop through it.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yup, true.

But contactless via a phone can have no limit.
Adding a debit card to phone case means the upper limit is £100. Which is actually fine, and is the limit I have normally set for phone contactless. But I can instantly remove that limit via my banking app.

And the phone needs to be unlocked to make a payment.
Do if I lose my phone anyone can charge £100 to the debit card.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah, all fair points. I do love the convenience of using my phone to pay too in fairness.

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