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[–] UsernameHere@lemy.lol -4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I saw that town hall on Fox News with Bernie. The people in the audience were asking about what he was going to do to fix climate change and a lot of subjects that Republicans deny even exists. That audience wasn’t Republican don’t lie to yourself.

Bill Clinton won two consecutive terms.

Hillary Clinton won the popular vote and lost because of Russian election interference.

Biden won.

Harris lost because of inflation caused by post covid supply chain problems, according to the polls.

Ignoring the fact that voters chose the furthest option to the right give the next election to the GOP, if there is another election.

Just because what you’re saying on lemmy gets upvotes doesn’t mean it would get votes irl.

Popular opinions on lemmy are the exact opposite of what voters vote for.

There was recently a post here on lemmy that proposed AOC running for president and the top voted comment was that she would lose. Even here on lemmy enough people are aware of the leftists echo chamber and how detached it is from reality.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 1 points 56 minutes ago (1 children)

That audience wasn’t Republican don’t lie to yourself.

Fox News decided to invite a bunch of progressives? Don't kid yourself.

Clinton lost for a lot of reasons. But she managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of what should have been an overwhelming blowout. It's not just Russian interference at that point, that's delusional.

Biden won once, barely, and only with Trumps shit 1st term stuck in economic crisis after Covid. Biden then ended up so far behind in the polls they pulled him from being embarrassingly defeated by Trump. Harris lost because she didn't offer any meaningful difference from the Biden era. That includes inflation, but again it's not the only reason people didn't turn out for her. Polls also showed she alienated a core left-wing demographic that stayed home. She needed every vote but made poor decisions that cost her more votes than she could gain.

The right-wing does campaigning on right-wing policy better than any centrist candidate ever could. You see this happening everywhere, not just the US.

AOC for president is ridiculous, her heart might be in the right place but she doesn't have a wide enough appeal. Sanders is different. There has been plenty of polling done that showed Sanders had a better chance at beating Trump than Harris or Biden did.

[–] UsernameHere@lemy.lol 1 points 7 minutes ago

Fox News decided to invite a bunch of progressives? Don't kid yourself.

Republicans deny the existence of climate change and vaccines and many other topics that were brought up in that townhall. Your feelings won’t change that.

Everything else in your response was conjecture and excuses.

Polls also showed she alienated a core left-wing demographic that stayed home.

At least you acknowledge that pandering to the left is a waste of time. Leftist have a reputation for not showing up to vote. But that is probably because there are so few of them that they need to team up with democrats just to have a voice.