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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted clever little truths, hidden in daily life.

Here are some examples to inspire your own showerthoughts:

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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

But that's the thing though. How can you determine the Earth as a reference point without knowing how it relates to other objects in space? "Here" is as useful a coordinated system as a fake absolute positioning system. "Here" is just your relation to other objects. If you don't know what your relation to those objects is you can't determine where "here" is, or the Earth for that matter. Whether it's the machine or the person operating it, something or someone has to calculate where the Earth is in order to use it as a reference point.

If you are driving away from your friend at 20 mph, from your perspective they are moving away from you at 20 mph while you are the one that's stationary. The only thing determining your location, or reference point, is your relation to each other.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You're still thinking in a context where the earth is travelling around the sun, etc etc.

If you assume the Earth as the reference point, then that is fixed, absolutely frozen, doesn't move at all. That's point zero.

You cannot calculate where the earth is. What you do is calculate where everything else, the universe itself and even other dimensions, are with regards to your fixed point.

This can feel counterintuitive, but here's a random visualization: https://youtube.com/shorts/UZyuZVvCE78

Note that, in that video, only the perspective has changed. The solar system is moving as usual.

[–] LilB0kChoy@midwest.social 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is also demonstrated well in the show Travelers with T.E.L.L.

Basically, a quantum AI from the future uses historical records to determine the time, elevation, latitude and longitude to send people back. Obviously the Earth itself is the reference point being used.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 4 points 1 day ago

It was a seriously underrated show.

[–] Kache@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That video is super, super wrong, and nowhere even close to "just a different perspective". To demonstrate, Mercury and Venus should periodically come between the Sun and Earth, but that'll never happen in that model.

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

But that's the point that I'm trying to make. It's probably my fault as I'm not very good at explaining things like this, and I'm not disagreeing with at all. I'm just saying that there is no way to have a machine or method of travel with a fixed point without knowing its relation to other objects. Just like you can't know the trajectory of the Earth through space without knowing its relation to other objects. What I'm saying is that regardless of your "fixed point" you will have to do the same math, just in a different order depending on your point of reference. We are dealing with relatively here so the only variable that changes is your point of reference while the math stays the same.