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[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone -4 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Yes but you have to balance passenger safety. Making air traffic control.subject to politics, which incudes strikes, makes them subject to misinformation which can be deadly. Airline passengers should not be pawns.

Flyover operating is a reasonable compromise. Ryanair have cut airfares, which depends on cheap staff and cheap destination airports. However, I don't think they've ever had a fatal crash.

If you think France striking is due to Ryanair, who operate there but not hugely, then lol. Even if they did and were responsible,it's a reasonable point. Bad actors can make a good point and be right. Your goalpost shifting is quite clear.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Making air traffic control.subject to politics, which incudes strikes, makes them subject to misinformation which can be deadly.

I don't get it. Do you mean that the air traffic controllers become subject to misinformation because they are allowed, or do you mean the passengers? Either way i disagree. Striking is a fundamental right. The alternative is for the problems of the workers not to get awareness. The article quotes a near miss in France, where the tower was severely understaffed. We saw multiple deadly instance in the US right after Trump put the axe to Air Traffic controllers in the US.

Not addressing these issues and not allowing controllers to use all means of workers to challenge problems and make them public, is leading to people being killed.

Also the airlines knew in advance and can just reroute around.

Even if they did and were responsible,it’s a reasonable point. Bad actors can make a good point and be right.

The airlines put price pressure on ground operations, which lead to bad practices, which lead to problems with safety. This makes all airlines responsible, but the ones heavily lobbying like RyanAir more so than others.

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Striking workers, you call it "politics", but it is not the same kind of politics as when the EU makes secret deals with Ryanair for example.

It is a very different kind, and no reasonable comparison.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 points 4 days ago

The eu should not be making secret deals with anyone. I believe Ryanair has had to change their operating procedures and advertising based on hefty fines from Spain. Not quite the cosy relationship you're portraying.

[–] meowgenau@programming.dev 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Making air traffic control.subject to politics

Every part of your life is subject to politics. Always has been.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 0 points 4 days ago

Yep, I agree. Yet some things can be kept apolitical when there's a will to do so.