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Israel’s war in Gaza is chipping away at so much of what we – in the United States but also internationally – had agreed upon as acceptable, from the rules governing our freedom of speech to the very laws of armed conflict. It seems no exaggeration to say that the foundation of the international order of the last 77 years is threatened by this change in the obligations governing our legal and political responsibilities to each other.

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[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Myopic US take. The Israel lobby is all through the western world and has pushed almost every government into the corner of accepting this racist genocidal war lest they be labelled anti-Semitic.

[–] shoo@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

I really don't understand where this idea comes from of a country with the 40th rank GDP having the pull to mastermind politics worldwide. For reference: their revenue is about the same as Apple, whose lobbying sees less success despite being more politically neutral.

The reason they have international support is because it's convenient and their location + antagonism align with the geopolitics of a large group of states. Isreal is a dog on a leash, what we're seeing Trump do is give them unprecedented lead to genocide at will.

Letting them go this far and long without tugging their collar back to peace talks is not the historical norm, no matter how hard you point at Biden. Did Biden take direct military action to support them? Has any US president?

This Isreali lobbying is a boogeyman; Isreal could dissolve tomorrow and you would see another antagonist spring up in the region with international backing. People are just uncomfortable with their country being aligned with the bad guys of their own free will.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

What you're failing to include in your calculations is how cheap political sway is to buy worldwide. You don't need to be the wealthiest nation in the world to place several $50k political donations per year to the two major parties and some of their key politicians, and keep a lobbying firm in the nation's capital well-funded to wines and dines key politicians and journalists.

Manufacturing consent is financially trivial for Israel, they've been practicing it for 50 years and the machine is institutionalized.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Nothing excuse their complicity, nothing

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Reason is not justification, I excuse nothing - just pointing our it's much wider than the US.