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[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 64 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Embarrass herself by telling people she believes in witchcraft.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (4 children)

As if its any worse than the alternatives

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You say that as if you HAVE to believe in magic.

[–] ThunderChunk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's a lot more fun to believe in magic when you know it's not real than to actually believe in magic.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

True. But it’s still silly.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So? Ffs have some fun with life before a climate emergency or secret police get to you.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

There’s lots of people out there who don’t think playing pretend with magic is enjoyable man. Some people think it’s silly shit. If you like that stuff you’ll just have to accept that part of it.

No shit?? 😒😑

[–] Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Look dude, there's people out there who believe in magic and you're just going to have to live with that. Don't get your panties in a twist when you see them online and give into the urge to tell them it's silly.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

lol I didn’t get my panties in a twist, you do you, but I’m not going to pretend I don’t think adults practicing witchcraft isn’t silly. And it’s obviously not an unpopular opinion. Y’all are being way too defensive about this.

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you were defending Christians believing Jesus is the Son of God people would probably be flipping their shit.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah I’d never do that. Also this is the internet, people are gonna flip their shit no matter what I say.

[–] Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All were trying to tell you is don't go out of your way (which you did) to belittle somebody's faith. It's kinda cringe.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Religions are absolutely not above criticism, what a ridiculous thing to say. If your faith requires you to oppress people for things like, say, being born homosexual, then I’m absolutely going to belittle it. And if your faith says that you believe you can cast magic spells, then I’m going to think that’s fucking silly.

[–] Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The word faith applies in both contexts that I used it for so I don’t understand your point.

[–] Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works 0 points 18 hours ago

No it doesn't and I know you don't.

[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] ThunderChunk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

FYI around the time you sent this I rubbed my eye, but forgot that I had cut jalapeños earlier...I do not like you

[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 3 points 1 day ago

Fear my arcane spells.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's definitely worse than not believing in magic

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Man im too old to give a fuck what people believe anymore.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You aren't bothered by "vaccines cause autism" stuff?

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They're too old to give a fuck about what people who don't have power over others believe anymore.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

It doesn't seem like that was the case

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wtf gives you that impression

Believe what you want doesn't mean be a fuckin moron

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 day ago

Man im too old to give a fuck what people believe anymore.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Is it though...? As stupid as the Abrahamic God is, at least you have a "God of the Gaps" thing going on where all God really has to be is someone with their own agency to grant you what you ask for and to determine where to place you in an untestable "afterlife". Of course there's an obvious cocktail of inherent contradictions when you choose "omniscient", "omnipotent", and "omnibenevolent" at the same time, but then you can appeal to the idea we wouldn't possibly understand the whims of such a god outside of time and space. Again, stupid as fuck, but you can weasel your way out of anything.

But witchcraft? Okay, you're transferring the agency to yourself, a human that exists here, and you're saying you can perform magic, but now you have no evidence you're capable of jack shit and you have no excuse to pawn it off onto. You'll never be able to do magic your entire life because it categorically isn't real, so is the excuse that witches are real but you personally really suck as one? Is the idea that you do what "God" does and take credit for anything that vaguely "works" by sheer coincidence and ignore everything else? Do you only cast "spells" that function as placebos like easing someone's pain or making them feel happy – similar to many prayers?

And of course with God you don't have any way to test where this magic is coming from; it was there before time and is all-powerful, and there's any number of ways with that setup to weasel your way out. But what's the scientifically measurable phenomenon behind witchcraft? There is none, and unlike God where there also is none, this should be easily testable if it exists since it allegedly interacts with the physical world on your command.

So now you've gone from untestable woo like the afterlife and testable but weaselable woo like prayers to woo that you should absolutely be able to test empirically because you're in control of it.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

At least witches aren't angling for a theocracy.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sure but I’m not really interested in playing whataboutism games when we are talking about two different types of make believe.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Then don't try to paint one as somehow more respectable? Or better yet just don't respond to a comment if you don't want to follow a side conversation? What a weird reply

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I definitely think witchcraft is more respectable than Christianity, I wasn’t trying to paint it otherwise and I don’t see how you could take what I said as that. But whatever if you’re mad at me just cast a curse on me or whatever and I won’t hold it against you.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sorry I thought you were the other person re painting prayer as more respectable. Still no idea what the point of your whataboutism bullshit was though. You also seem to think I believe in witchcraft, which I don't. I just don't give a shit about witchcraft because they aren't hurting anyone, and the least dangerous Christian is still lending momentum to the Christian nationalists.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I never said I gave a shit about witchcraft beyond thinking it’s a silly thing to believe in.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 0 points 1 day ago

This isn't even a conversation. You just say random tangentially related bullshit every post. What a waste of time

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sure. Doesn't make them not stupid as hell; it just makes their beliefs less corrosive to society. I can imagine they'd be extremely toxic if they had widespread public support, but probably still not nearly as much as "I commune with an all-powerful sky daddy whose word is ultimate law that divides people between everlasting bliss and everlasting suffering and I can choose to believe whatever that word is" like Abrahamic religions.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago

Sure. I think anything that encourages people to believe things that they want to instead of because they're true opens the way for them to apply that blind faith in other things that matter more, like politics. I do think organized religion is a bit worse because it also teaches subservience to undeserved authority.

Anyway, in the end, I'm waaay more worried about the one that is organized and has power than the people that aren't bothering anybody and my opinions will reflect that.

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The only viable religion is worshiping the sun, since that actually exists.

I have said the exact same thing

[–] match@pawb.social 0 points 16 hours ago

people who do witchcraft are usually kind and interesting