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I'm sorry but this is an old tactic in my country. 2 major parties always fighting for power, and the one always ask to vote them because the other party will destroy the country.
And the blame goes to the no voters or the ice-cream voters or the voters that turn their back, not to the party itself or to their voters that did shit when they were in power for many years. Maybe its time to pay attention to what caused the problem and not to the result.
As for the USA, Trump is the outcome of the Democrats acting as Republicans for decades.
Edit: Last sentence is a bit oversimplification of the story, but Democrats had abandoned the working class and the low income people. They acted like moderate Republicans, especially in the economy.
Jesus fucking Christ, it's like no one has any memory of what Dem positions actually were for fucking decades - or Republican positions.
I hear minimum wage is the same as it was in 2010. Also big companies pay less taxes than small business or not at all. Military budget goes up every year. Healthcare is a joke for the richest country of the world. etc..
Do you know Dem positions on any of those?
Dems have ran on an increased minimum wage ever since Bernie burst onto the scene. But we elected Republicans instead. Dems have been running on corporate tax increases since 2012. But we elect Republicans. Obama had a knock-down drag-out multi-year fight reducing the military budget. But we elected Republicans, and that was reversed. Healthcare is a joke, and expansion of healthcare has been a platform of the Dems since 2016, with even that ghoul Hillary running on healthcare expansion. But we elect Republicans. The only time we've controlled all three houses in the past fifteen fucking years was a period of two years, 2020-2022, with a 'majority' of 50-50 in the Senate.
Dems are insufficient. But this delusion that both sides are the same is utterly ruinous purity politics bullshit that has directly led to the death of millions.
But hey, at least you didn't have to hold hands with the dreaded shitlibs. Any amount of murdered minorities is worth that.
Minimum wage: Dems ran on $15 since 2015. Reality? In 2021, 8 Senate Dems killed it. “$11 is more reasonable”, Result: 20 states still at $7.25.
Corporate taxes: Biden’s 2022 “win” (15% min tax) affects 150 companies. Meanwhile, Amazon paid 0% in 2021. Dems folded on closing offshore loopholes.
Military spending: Obama’s “cuts” were a theater. He ended ground wars but quadrupled drone strikes (civilian deaths went up 400%). Biden signs $886B budget, higher than Trump did.
Healthcare: 2009: Dems had 60 votes. They gutted the public option to please Big Pharma donors.
Dems had 4 months at 60 seats in 2009 and 18 days at 50+VP in 2021. Both times, they negotiated against themselves.
Harm reduction in a burning building is not a permanent solution.
And that has to do with the national party line... in what way?
Saying that "cuts" were a theatre by pointing to drone strikes makes no sense. Budget cuts are fucking budget cuts, I'm sorry that you don't think that wasting less money on implements of war instead of human needs is a good thing?
Civilian deaths did not go up "400%".
Drone strikes went up as a replacement for traditional air and artillery strikes, not as a sudden spike in military activity.
Much of the increase was a pay raise for troops and assistance to Ukraine; furthermore, the increases of the Biden years were significantly lower, by percentage, than during the Trump years. But sure, both sides same. What's Trump's position on Ukraine, again?
Yes, and the Blue Dogs were massacred in 2010 and 2012 because of this.
And as anyone who actually follows politics can tell you, four months is a blink of a fucking eye, and the fragility of that fillibuster-proof majority was exactly why ramming the legislature through was so important.
I'm sorry, do you think the Democratic Party is a hivemind? It's a big-tent coalition in a situation where they literally could not lose even a single vote to pass any legislature?
What exactly were you expecting from a razor-thin margin in a big-tent "Everyone who isn't the fascist ghouls" coalition? Socialism in a five year plan?
YES, THAT'S THE POINT OF HARM REDUCTION
You are not getting it, are you?
Suppose the Dems won with the Harm Reduction policy. What do you think would happen after 4 years? Trumpism would surrender? Fascist would say, ah we lost lets give up?
No, you are in a permanent state, where Dems making only the bare minimum, people voting them out of fear, for what? Forever? You call that a solution? Because that already may happened. Maybe Biden elected as a harm reduction. But this aint go forever.