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[–] blackris@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are you kidding me?

Patriotism is great because patriotism is about loving what a country stands for.

Then:

The US doesn't stand for anything

What is it now?

Apart from that, you are projecting a bit much here. My point is not that you shouldn't take a stand against the fascist. On the contrary. But then do it right.

Don't be like them and run around with that patriotism bullshit. Don't pretend that your country was so great and free and fair and all. It never was. The rich always made themselves richer. Sexism, racism and classism where always a thing there. It got better, because the people stood up took their rights against push back, against violence and murder. But even in it's best days, the US was far away from equality.

Fight for equality, for fairness, for freedom and all that, but stop twisting that into what you want to make other people believe is some core value of your country and the only real patriotic thing or some shit.

What is it now?

Read what I wrote. The US used to stand for freedom and justice for all and the US no longer does.

Apart from that, you are projecting a bit much here.

Your argument is beat for beat the same argument so it's not projection.

Don’t be like them and run around with that patriotism bullshit.

Your argument agrees with the fascists in that "America was never a democracy". The fascists just take it further and say we were always a white christian nation. Stop running around with the accelerationist bullshit.

Don’t pretend that your country was so great and free and fair and all. It never was.

It got better, because the people stood up took their rights against push back, against violence and murder.

So your argument concedes it is the same accelerationist argument. Your argument even clarifies it's wrong at the same time. Cool.

but stop twisting that into what you want to make other people believe is some core value of your country and the only real patriotic thing or some shit.

I am going to keep refuting accelerationist arguments. You can try to bullshit in your argument all you want.

Fascism will fail. Accelerationism will fail. People are going to keep telling the truth.