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This entire comment is predicated off of a false assumption.
No. I am saying that they do not deserve protections of speech as Christians are not a oppressed minority but the oppressive majority. I'm not seeing the difference between "Jesus Christ" being called a slur or somehow derogatory towards Christians and some some white supremacist claiming that "Cracker" is a slur.
You're also putting far too much emphasis on what you think that I feel instead of asking for clarification. This is also deeply bothering me because I do not fucking care about Christianity. It isn't a concern of mine nor something that drifts across my thoughts. I do not think about it. I do not change my life for it. It's a fairy tale that was invented thousands of years ago to get people to listen to basic rules and has turned into a tool of extreme hatred and oppression. So forgive me if I have little patience or care for the entire institution. I'm not saying it out of malice. I'm saying it because I don't fucking care. I do not consider Christianity because it does not consider me.
Once again. You are really sounding like a white supremacist claiming that "cracker" is somehow a slur. It is not "making fun of Christians" to say Jesus Christ. It simply isn't. You can be upset by it all you want, and that's valid to be upset by it, but you do not get to reframe reality so that your personal feelings on the matter override how things work. Saying "Jesus Christ!" is not a swear, it is not a curse, it is not hatred directed at someone. It is an exclamation of surprise or bewilderment. It is not mocking of Christianity but you suggesting that a literal slur that, when spoken, is evidence of a hate crime feels pretty fucking mocking of my community and everything we've gone through.
And in no instance or example of that was "Jesus Christ!" ever said during it as a slur or hatred. The worst you can argue is that someone said "You believe in Jesus Christ!" It was never used as a swear. No one says "You Jesus Christ!" It is not a term used in hatred but a term used in surprise and I am beyond furious at you daring to suggest that Christians being killed for their religion is even remotely comparable to gay people being disowned by their families, being evicted, being killed, killing themselves, etc
I'm not even going to bother responding to the rest of your comment. You've made way too many assumptions about my opinions, my stances and my feelings without asking for clarification. You've compared the usage of "Jesus Christ" as a remark of exclamation to a word that is said in spitting venom, hatred, and is used during hate crimes. These are not the same and you have managed to offend me so severely in even suggesting that they are that I had to outright leave my fuckin house and walk away for a while before I broke shit and also guaranteed I'm never going to interact with you ever again. I do not appreciate people trying to compare hate crimes with a phrase spoken casually on a daily basis by Christians.
Also, what would Jesus have preferred here? Seriously? That someone use his name as an exclamation of surprise or that someone compare using his name as an exclamation of surprise with the poor, weak, downtrodden upon and victimized who have had to hear the word faggot spat in their face by people who were deemed their guardians and protectors? Because the Jesus I was raised on? He would have shrugged and said "They know not what they do."
But I dunno. Maybe I read a different book.
Have a good day.
Christians are the oppressive majority, yes. But where is the word or concept of "majority" in Rule 1? Your own words are "Remember that diversity and coexistence are Star Trek values." - I love that!
Cracker is likewise a slur as well. Use it, or don't, whatever, but it is a slur... right? I mean, wikipedia even says that it is: "Cracker, sometimes cracka or white cracker, is a racial slur directed at white people". That's not a deep cut, it's literally the first sentence on that page.
Use of slurs isn't about what you, the slinger, feels, it is about how the recipient feels upon receipt. I do not call black people n- uh... nope, not going to finish that thought there. I do not call women cunts or whatever, I do call men "dick" or "jerk" or whatever, but that's irrespective of gender, color, etc... and quite frankly that's even in theory though I cannot now recall the last time I actually used it, either irl or even online.
More to the point, if the slur recipient did not feel hurt by use of the slur, then what is even the point of using an actual "slur"? Why not call a black man by "sir"? Why not call someone "madam", as opposed to "broad", if not to denigrate them? It's certainly not a term of fucking endearment! A man calling a woman a "broad" is saying that he, a (implication: superior) male is looking down on her, an (inferior) female.
Anyway, use of slurs makes the recipients feel less "welcomed". If you walked into a restaurant and someone said "be rite wit ya cracka", you might think twice about eating there? Slurs focus on the "diversity" part, but not to enhance "coexistence" as in togetherness and making people feel welcomed, and rather acts to divide.
And I wasn't asking you to delete the post or anything, just sharing my thoughts that I do not care to see people denigrated. Even when they are the oppressive majority. It divides, but the problem with divisions is that eventually they wrap back around to something that you do, finally, actually do care about: "First they came for...".
I will add that imho it's okay to be mad at Christianity: they deserve it:-P. But despite your feelings, are you going to sling slurs at them - and not even the handful of people that improperly abused their religion to hurt you, but half the people on the planet? Stupid, mislead, whatever else they may be - they, no "we", are all humans here, aren't we?
TLDR: CRACKER IS VERY MUCH A SLUR - look it up