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[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (14 children)

Look, I really appreciate the sentiment, but it's time to acknowledge that those non-voters are not "misinformed future allies" any more than the MAGAs are. They are either accelerationists or fundamentally broken logically, and which form their indecision takes makes no difference -they are enemies of progress all the same, and to the extent there is ANY hope for the future, it relies on building a path AROUND them, not WITH them.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's the height of cluelessness that Democrats act like anyone who isn't a Trump supporter somehow owes their vote to the Democratic Party. If the only thing your party has to offer is Not Being Republicans then why should anyone owe them anything.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world -3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

If the only thing your party has to offer is Not Being Republicans then why should anyone owe them anything.

Your moral purity in refusing to give the Dems an 'unowed' victory will be written on the tombstones of millions of people that the fascists are murdering. Thank you for your service in teaching those damn dirty Dems a lesson o7

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

You do realize this is exactly the kind of melodramatic over-the-top garbage that puts people off wanting to engage with politics in the first place, yeah?

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

"How dare you be such a jerk? Guess I have no choice but to make innocent people suffer over it. That'll show you!"

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Incredible, it’s like a constant stream of disingenuous mischaracterisation. You’re proving my point far more than you’re dispelling it.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 57 minutes ago)

I mean, I'm over it. Do what you feel like. It's clear whatever the future is, this argument we're having now? Has no part in it. Vote or don't vote for whoever you want. Feel or don't feel guilt. I don't particularly care about the details of how you see it. The time when it might have mattered either way? Is over. Sure, maybe pre-election it was like trying to convince you not to kill the hostage - but the hostage is dead now. Not arguing that battle anymore. It's irrelevant. You do whatever it is you like, but I'm never, ever, ever going to see the action in any other way, and at this point there's absolutely ZERO point in discussing otherwise. It's all academic. The trolley problem stops being a moral quandry when everyone is dead already. If you feel good? Great! You get my unironic and genuine thumbs up. Live your best life, my friend.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world -2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

You do realize this is exactly the kind of melodramatic over-the-top garbage that puts people off wanting to engage with politics in the first place, yeah?

Sorry, I understand my death and the deaths of millions of other people are too 'melodramatic' for the tastes of middle-class suburbanites for whom politics is a species of sport.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah keep ranting and accusing people of mass murder for not voting for your guy, that’ll win us over

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Yeah keep ranting and accusing people of mass murder for not voting for your guy, that’ll win us over

If only the Dem circus was more entertaining, then you could've been convinced to vote against the slaughter of disadvantaged groups by literal fascists. But it wasn't entertaining enough, so the lives of marginalized groups was a price you were willing to pay to give the Dems a 'thumbs-down'.

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