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[–] ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The word "Republican" ~~actually comes from~~ is used today as a decolonial form of Nationalist movement, and they are usually Socialists. Elsewhere in the world, "Republican" still means something actually useful for human goddamn dignity. Since nobody sold out the premise like an American Colonizer party.

You gonna tell an Irish Nationalist that they can't celebrate or defend their people even as "Unionist" Pogroms ravage Catholic parts of Northern Ireland?

You gonna tell an Indigenous Nationalist that their people can't have the land granted to them by treaties or stand for their people's sovereign water supply?

You gonna tell a Jewish Nationalist that they can't be Anti-Zionist, and build their idea of the Jewish Nation and its Diasporic people on standing up against oppression?

These illiterate, domesticated-ass liberals still think "nation = country = state", like this is 2nd grade. The closest they get to reading is a twitter post, my essaying protects me from their eyes. And they want to talk about what Nationalism is.

Meanwhile Patriotism? Is bipartisan. And it is Stan-ing for a State even as it commits a Genocide. Fuck all of that, and fuck your state. May Trump's incompetence burn the US's ability to inflict violence upon the rest of the world.

[–] Zezzoz@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The word "republic" comes from res publica. Public thing.

Indeed, the meaning has been fully distorted, like anything else in the US, and sold to people with no moral, voted by people with no moral.

[–] ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah, fair point.

The original use? Is not how any single Republican Party I can find actually started. Instead it explicitly Anti-Monarchist, even Socialist Decolonialism for former British Colonies. Even the US party began along these lines - but ya know, the whole selling out thing.

Tell an Irish Republican you voted for Trump. I dare you.

[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

he word “Republican” actually comes from a decolonial form of Nationalist movement, and they are always the Left party. Elsewhere in the world, “Republican” still means something actually useful for human goddamn dignity. Since nobody sold out the premise.

It has nothing to do with that at all. They are called Republicans for historical reasons, but the name has long since lost all relevance to any specific policies, it is just a name for a ~~sports~~ political team. Other political parties in other places are called Republicans for other localised reasons.

Republic stems from the Roman res publica, but in modern political science it just means a state where the office of head of state isn't hereditary, ie. basically not a monarchy. This was a key factor in the 18th century, since most European (and globally as well) states were monarchies, so being a republic did mean a drastic change in political system compared to the norm. Not so much anymore, since most states in the world are republics, but they have very drastically different political systems, some are dictatorships others democracies.

[–] ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah, thanks for the correction. Modern Republicanism has a nice Wikipedia page that was worth a perusal.

The former British Colonies tend to use the word "Republican" in a specifically Anti-British-Monarchy way as that Nation sought independence. This does not apply to the US party.

Beginning as Socialist Parties is also a notable trend, though not entirely universal among this category. In this, the US party fits the trend well - but has abandoned that principle. Now they want a damn king too. Its disgusting.