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Chaotic Evil. Always Sunny is Seinfeld without trying to make the characters likeable, which as a huge Seinfeld fan, I felt was the biggest detriment to the show, and probably done so Jerry Seinfeld felt better acting in it as himself. What with being a groomer and all.
The characters on Seinfeld were NOT intended to be likable.
well one of them is really not likeable irl.
The characters aren't likeable?
Relatable?
Yes, sorry, used the wrong word, was doing accounting while writing. I meant that an average person looks at the Sunny characters and doesn't think they want to be them, where as I'd argue only George (and maybe Kramer) were that in Seinfeld.
Oh yeah, I was backing you up.
Thanks, appreciate it.
George I can kind of understand despite him having a semi decent life but kramer seemed to be a pretty happy guy
I used to think Kramer was harmless and happy. Then I had a longtime friend who was very similar. Charismatic, fun to hang out with, and manipulative and disorganized as hell. Drama, always needing things, and causing issues. Didn't think Kramer was that nice after, and throughout the show you see him mooching off of Jerry.
I'll admit I forgot about the mooching but I don't think he's any more manipulative than the rest of the gan, even jerry but that could be because jerry gets more screen time, with how you talk about drama I don't think a sitcom life would agree with you since there really isn't much of a show without drama
Good point. Yeah, when you start looking for it Kramer is just as bad as the rest. So I guess Newman is the good guy? I think I'm too sober for this train of thought now.
I don't know I feel like I can kind of relate to kramer minus the N word thing but that was outside the show and after it I think
and his shit eating grin when confronted about his support for IDF and israel, plus his wife is also funding anti-protest groups. i felt like the other actors in seinfeld is what made it funnier than him alone, and with him alone he is kinda of a lame duck, given how he acted when people wouldnt laugh at his jokes.
ISAIP was chaotic evil to become neutral, in the later seasons. from season 13 on, they switched.