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[–] chrislowles@lemmy.zip 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Worse yet, there's probably people that hate Peterson but love his tactics of just being the worst person ever in the "right way", you know people that think misandry isn't real.

[–] Flickerby@lemmy.zip 9 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Misandry exists and it's a valid concern for a lot of men. To write it off and pretend it doesn't is to feed more people into Peterson's cult. That's not to say that misogyny doesn't exist either, not that it's not as much of a problem. It's not a competition on how much life sucks for a particular group of people. We're all just trying to get through life however we can and everyone needs their own space. And so far 99% of men's spaces are this sexist alpha male pigheaded bullshit. And everyone is so afraid of making another type because they'll be labeled as more of the same. This is for just normal ass people who just need someone to talk to who understands what they're going through. None of the Peterson bullshit. None of the misogyny. Just guys helping guys. And it's telling that my first post saying "Peterson sucks" is very upvoted but my post saying "Peterson sucks, here's an alternative for men that's not sucky" is not

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today -5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

i only ever heard incel men, claim of significant misandry, while not even admitting to thier own msygony. sorry but that isnt true, thats incel, j peterson talk. yes there is misandry but not to extent that men claim they are facing, and mysogyny far outstrips any form of women hating men,.

[–] Flickerby@lemmy.zip 11 points 14 hours ago

I didn't claim misogyny didn't exist, I explicitly confirmed it does. I didn't say misandry was worse than misogyny, I said it wasn't a competition between the two. Just because YOU don't recognize it doesn't mean that OTHER people don't feel it's effects. For you to come in and claim to tell other people that their experiences are invalid because you personally don't believe in them is the height of narcissism

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

As a man, it's not even a comparison and it's insulting to women to even suggest it.

[–] Flickerby@lemmy.zip 0 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Specifically, no one is comparing them except you. It's okay for two groups of people to have shitty experiences at once. It's not a competition or a fight, I don't understand why people keep trying to insist on making it a "one vs the other" thing.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Really? Nobody compares them? Maybe not here, but... Seriously? Is this your first day on the internet?

[–] Flickerby@lemmy.zip 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I can only speak for myself. If you're trying to lay the entirety of the Internet's behavior on a specific person or group of people then that's a pretty shitty personal take that you can take personal responsibility for.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Specifically, no one is comparing them except you.

You just said this though. How is this just speaking for yourself?

[–] Flickerby@lemmy.zip 0 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Would you like me to amend it to "No in this immediate conversation is comparing the two"? I figured you got that considering you said

Maybe not here

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Why are you getting so defensive about me pointing out the behavior of other people on the internet? Kind of a weird reaction.