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The bigger issue is that somewhere near half the US is OK with this. Sure, maybe some people could have done more to prevent it. But, there were also untapped voters on the other side who fully supported this kind of thing, but were too lazy to vote.
The US is in a crisis not because of who is in charge, but because roughly half the population supports this kind of thing. It could be that some of them are actually not horrible people, it's just that they've been misled by Fox News, right-wing echo chambers, and other sources of information that have blinded them to the truth. But, a lot of them are gleeful participants in this new world, and will fully support it until they're the ones being sent to the camps.
It's hard to believe that any level of watching fox news would make a healthy decent person okay with literal concentration camps
Because that's not what they're being told. I haven't watched, but I assume it's more like "These rapists, murderers and drug dealing gang members are going to be put in a comfortable detention camp that's escape-proof because of the alligators."
I assume they think that it's only the worst of the worst that are being sent to these camps. They believe Trump's narrative that Kilmar Abrego Garcia was a member of MS13 who had MS13 tattooed on his knuckles. They believe that the people being rounded up are gangsters and terrorists, and if there's occasionally a story of someone who wasn't a gangster being deported, they think that's an exception. So, while the detention might be difficult, they think it's literally protecting innocent American lives.
Seeing this I think now it's more than half the US.
Probably they'll point at this and say "finally, a politician that does what he promises, I should vote for him next time"
Somewhere between 30-40 percent of the population doesn't vote, so if it's any consolation it's only about 30 percent who are for this. Not even factoring those who are so propagandized that they basically exist in a different reality and have no clue what the fuck is going on.
How do you figure? You think the 30-40 percent who didn't vote are against it? What evidence do you have for that?
In such a situation where information is limited the best course to take is that no opinion exists at all. Remember there is a greatly propagandandized fiction that politics don't matter, that's not even factoring in folks who for example are too overworked to care and other such similar factors. That's not even getting into various forms of voter suppression.
I'd say that at worst it's what may be considered civil negligence, but being pro something assumes intent or active participation. If I don't stop someone from doing a mass shooting simply because I didn't notice them because I'm tired or focused on other things does that make me assistant to the shooting?
Remember knowledge is power both in its acquisition and it's suppression, there's a lot of folks with lots of money enabling the suppression of knowledge. Not in a UFO conspiracy theory way but in a knowing you are being fucked over by politicians and not circumstances sort of way.