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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago (5 children)

You know how people say, "it's a free country"?

Yeah... Not anymore.

[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

when was it a free country?

to my family this is just business as usual with extra manpower

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

to my family this is just business as usual with extra manpower

This is simply not true, and it's dangerous to pretend that it is. I'm not saying anything about how good or bad things have been for your family in the US.

However, there is not been any time in the past, at least, 80 years that the US government has trafficked lawful permanent residents, green card holders, literal infants with terminal cancer, etc., to a mega prison in a country they've likely never been to and have never had a connection to. That's not "business as usual."

Not, in at least 80 years (probably never), has a sitting president threatened to "deport" US citizens in any capacity, let alone for their political views. And, as we've all seen, these are not empty threats.

Never have we had such a corrupt and compromised Supreme Court. Never has a political party in the US been so subservient to a single demagogue, to the point of complete deriliction of duty.

I could go on and on... None of this is normal.

[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Internment of Japanese Americans

Stonewall riots

United States heard change and shot Malcom X and MLK

United States just got done having a president that supported segregation

Dakota Access Pipeline protests

Terry stops have allowed police to stop anyone at any time for any reason and arrest them for whatever the officer makes up

not a complete list and again this is not unprecedented but just ramping up more of what was definitely already here

only people not seeing are the sheltered ones in HOAs

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm aware of all of the terrible things that my government has done. I purposely said 80 years because of the internment of Japanese citizens is the closest thing to what's happening. Still much different though. Not here for the hardship Olympics.

If you know about history, and you pretend what's happening isn't unprecedented, then you're being disingenuous.

[–] Gustephan@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

You pretending it's unprecedented is privileged and incorrect. This the first time since the Japanese internments that white or white adjacent people have regularly suffered illegal search and seizure and been made to feel unsafe in public in the US. The person you responded to brought up plenty of precedent for stuff that's as bad or almost as bad that has been accepted treatment of non-white people in the states since it became a country. You don't get to accuse somebody of being disingenuous because they care about the plight of people you seem to be happy to marginalize by claiming and defending that this is unprecedented. The only thing unprecedented about the current state of affairs is that white people are suffering because of it too

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