I am more surprised than I should be at how quickly the Fedi pitch went from "we want a future where everything is interoperable everywhere" to "we don't want any interaction with for profit companies".

I don't mind either way, it's all bad and I shouldn't be here in the first place, but... you know, it's weird seeing social patterns develop in real time.

[–] skrlet13@feddit.cl 11 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Fedi is not homogeneus. Each server interacts with who it wants. You could say multiple fedis exist at the same time, and both pitches represent different people.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 3 points 23 hours ago

Yeah, well, don't tell them. The fields of Mastodon are still full of the debris of the Great Threads Arguments. Seemed to me everybody thought they had the correct and only Fedi.

[–] scsi@lemmy.world 1 points 55 minutes ago

I am more surprised than I should be at how quickly the Fedi pitch went from “we want a future where everything is interoperable everywhere” to “we don’t want any interaction with for profit companies”.

A non-zero number of these companies are opportunists looking to fediwash their profile (just like ecowashing, pridewashing and so forth. Hell even Blueksy, the media darling of "we're fedi we promise!" is already engaging in Blue Checks(tm) and ads in streams. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

Specifically, what is Tumblr really worth without all it's advertising and web controls to limit content viewing without forcing an account? (hello, Instagram) Adding bidirectional ActivityPub to Tumblr would basically render the site useless, who would subject themselves to that trash heap of a website when they could get the actual content from, say, a Lemmy instance? s/Tumblr/Reddit == samesame

For profit companies who have built walled gardens and wish to stay that way (reddit, tumblr, meta, linkedin, etc.) are at ethical odds with the ActivityPub world, insofar as people are trying vehemently to get away from these companies. But you'll notice for profit companies who are within the ideals of Fedipeople (for example Nitro, or Tuta, or Proton, or Mullvad) do not get griefed due to alignment of values and morals of the communities in question.