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A heatwave continues to grip large parts of Europe, with authorities in many countries issuing health warnings amid searing temperatures.

Southern Spain is the worst-affected region, with temperatures in the mid-40s Celsius recorded in Seville and neighbouring areas.

A new heat record for June of 46C was set on Saturday in the town of El Granado, according to Spain's national weather service, which also said this month is on track to be the hottest June on record.

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[–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Why would they need more airco when many houses and apartments still don't even have proper shutters for windows and many people still don't know you should keep your windows closed during peak heat hours, many roofs still barely insulated and they turned all their yards and driveways into concrete and asphalt hellscapes. A nice adult tree in your yard does more than an airco, fight me.

[–] remon@ani.social 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Why would they need more airco when many houses and apartments still don’t even have proper shutters for windows and many people still don’t know you should keep your windows closed during peak heat hours

I'm doing all of that have have good insulation, ground floor. Doesn't help when the temperature never drops below 20°C for a week (and I literally got up at 5:00 when it was coldest to air out my flat).

So yeah, I'm getting an AC this summer.

[–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 1 points 19 hours ago

Exactly this, it's a last resort measure. More important is that every passive cooling option needs to be tried: outside shutters, more big green around the buildins, minimize concrete and asphalt around buildings, closing and airing at best times, etc. Some people just skip all that and go airco, especially in the USA. They are actively adding more BS to the shitstorm that is climate change.

[–] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Overall, I completely agree with this comment. But I live in the middle of the forest, completely surrounded by trees and when it hits 35c that air conditioning is very needed. Trees are nice but an air conditioner they are not.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's a huge difference in that between the UK and countries further to the south: for example, pretty much all dwellings in Portugal have outside window shutters whilst in the UK it's incredibly rare (instead they have inside heavy courtains, so the light goes into the house and the INSIDE gets absorbed by transformed into heat by the courtains) but on the other hand housing insulation is generaly complete total crap in Portugal, but less so in the UK (still not at Scandinavia or Russian levels of efficiency, but way better than Portugal) so in Winter unless one uses massive amounts of electricity/gas for heating, it's literally colder indoors in Portugal than in Britain.

At the very least both Portugal and Spain are much better adapted to higher temperatures than elsewhere in Europe, and that's anchored on traditional techniques (such as outside window shutters, houses painted in light colors and the type of roofing used) rather than the brute-force energy-heavy techniques (such as heavy use of Aircon) so common in places like the US.

[–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago

Well in places like UK, people are installing AC instead of trying many other, passive cooling options first. They don't plant a single shrub next to their building but do put in highly inefficient portable AC units meanwhile asphalting/concreting there driveways... That's exactly what got me on my high horse. AC can be needed, but it's definitely not the first way to go in a northern-ish European place if the building doesn't have outside shutters, very non green streets around etc. It's not the miracle solution, AC adds to climate change, other ways of dealing with heat do not.