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[–] Damage@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We live in a world where there are animals that take the place of other animals' tongue; where insects farm other insects; where parasites live in the skin of animals and different animals eat them, forming a symbiotic relationship; where predators often kill for fun.

Normal is the right word.

[–] wabasso@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Ok that’s a solid rebuttal around the “is it normal” argument. I’m personally still of the mindset that it’s “normal but wrong”. I wish we’d stop using normal to mean “good” and stick with it meaning “popular”. Statistics!

[–] Teppichbrand@feddit.org 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Normal, natural and necessary are the three N's of Carnism. Also:

Vegan Bullshit Bingo #1:
Lions eat meat too

Yes, animals kill in the wild - to survive. We humans are, as opposed to predators or parasites, omnivores. We know how to grow crops, vegetables, etc. and cultivate fields. We have a choice, a conscience and we have ethics. Are you identifying with the intelligence and life situation of that of a lion or a tongue parasite? Do you also commonly ask yourself "What would a tongue parasite do in my place right now"? Are lions that kill newborns of other lions, for example, really good role models?

Vegan Bullshit Bingo #54
Well, humans just are on top of the food chain.

Shouldn't you take responsibility in the role of the stronger and be considerate with your power? Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you have to. Otherwise you could maltreat children, handicapped people and all other physically disabled people for fun. Of course we don't do that because it would be immoral. Why should this moral understanding suddenly no longer apply to other species? Wouldn't we also wish for mercy and compassion if tomorrow a species superior to us colonized the earth?