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Pissed At What Chuck Just Got Through? Call Your Senators (if Dems) and Tell Them to Remove Him From Senate Leadership
(piefed.social)
Cross-posted from https://lemmy.ml/post/27194393:
House dems are PISSED at what Schumer just did. This is the case where outside voices are maximally helpful - when people on the inside of the party want him out. Let's build continued pressure. This will not happen overnight, it will happened when we keep the pressure consistently high
How would shutting down the government give the president more power to cause chaos?
The shutdown would potentially give Trump leeway to indefinitely furlough federal employees.
You know who else doesn't get paid during a shutdown? The military. The fucking military! You think they'd forget about a one, two, or three week shutdown when Trump tries to use them to enforce martial law to "cancel" an election or subdue protests?
No, they remember, they always remember. They would just pass a temporarily permanent funding exception to continue funding the police, military, concentration camps, and other select operations at Donald choosing. Keeping the government turned in at least gives dems a platform to fight back. I don't love it and it feels gross but also I kinda get it.
Good. Let them own the mess then. It’s their fault.
I believe that's the plan. They want the GOP to own all of this. If they hold the CR, suddenly that is the reason people are getting fired, the stock market is crashing, NATO is falling apart and our allies are ~~being abandoned by~~ abandoning us.
They're afraid if there's one thing to point to that they'll absorb everything in the eyes of the public. Particularly the Trump voting public.
In my opinion, it doesn't matter because they'll find something else to pin it on. You can't win these games by playing it their way.
Schumer did what he thought was best. He's just wrong.
That said, I think pushing for a change of leadership is the right way to go about this. If he's going to make bad decisions, he can pay for them appropriately.
How is it the fault of federal workers? Like all federal workers?
Poor writing on my part.
It’s the fault of the GOP. It’s their mess, they should 100% own it.
If the American people grow angry about it, we all know who they should be angry at. MAGA.
It sucks for the federal workers. But the Democrats did not create this mess, they shouldn’t vote to ameliorate it in exchange for giving the GOP one goddamned inch.
Gotcha, I share the sentiments.
The big problem with a gov shutdown is, somehow, the US populace can sniff out who caused it (according to a politics podcast I listen to.) So if democrats collectively stood their ground it very likely would have looked bad for them, not republicans.
I honestly don’t know which outcome, shutdown or no, would have been better. Like others are saying, supposedly a shutdown government would have also given Trump/Musk power to do things without congressional oversight. It’s a shitty situation either way.
He was already going to fire them anyway. I’m not really sure how it matters either way. Giving Trump the power of the purse just alllws him to make these firings legal.
Leaving federal buildings empty, so musk and his goons can go in and do damage without any resistance? A shutdown will not stop musk since he is not a government employee.