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I saw the Tesla Robotaxi:

  • Drive into oncoming traffic, getting honked at in the process.
  • Signal a turn and then go straight at a stop sign with turn signal on.
  • Park in a fire lane to drop off the passenger.

And that was in a single 22 minute ride. Not great performance at all.

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 hours ago

a silicon valley AI project to put transit workers out of work

Silicon valley doesn't have objectives like "putting transit workers out of work". They only care about growth and profit.

In this case, the potential for growth is replacing every driver, not merely targeting transit workers. If they can do that, it would mean millions fewer cars on the road, and millions fewer cars being produced. Great for the environment, but yeah, some people might lose their jobs. But, other new jobs might be created.

The original car boom also destroyed all kinds of jobs. Farriers, stable hands, grooms, riding instructors, equine veterinarians, horse trainers, etc. But, should we have held back technology so those jobs were all around today? We'd still have streets absolutely covered in horse poop, and horses regularly dying in the street, along with all the resulting disease. Would that be a better world? I don't think so.

It's another project to get AI money and destroy labor rights.

Waymo obviously uses a form of AI, but they've been around a lot longer than the current AI / LLM boom. It's 16 years old as a Google project, 21 years old if you consider the original Stanford team. As for destroying labour rights, sure, every capitalist company wants weaker labour rights. But, that includes the car companies making normal human-driven cars, it includes the companies manufacturing city buses and trains. There's nothing special about Waymo / Google in that regard.

Sure, strengthening labour rights would be a good idea, but I don't think it really has anything to do with Waymo. But, sure, we should organize and unionize Google if that's at all possible.

Transit is incredibly underfunded and misregulated in California/the USA

Sure. That has nothing to do with Waymo though.

robotaxis are a criminal misinvestment in resources.

Misinvestment by whom? Google? What should Google be investing in instead?