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On X11 and the Fascists Maggots (blogs.gnome.org)

submitted 4 days ago by Mihies@programming.dev to c/linux@programming.dev

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This is a truly WTF moment about messed up responses to X11 session removal in Gnome.

2 weeks ago I published a blogpost about the upcoming plans of GNOME 49 and the eventual removal of the X11 session. Since then, instead of looking at feedback, bugs and issues related to the topic, we all collectively had to deal with the following, and I am not exaggerating one bit:

Fascists and Nazis
Wild Conspiracy Theories that make Qanon jealous
“Concerned” Trolling about the Accessibility of the Wayland session
A culture war where Wayland is Gay, and X11 is the glorious past they stole from you

In my wildest dreams I could have never made this shit up. You all need mandatory supervised access to the Internet from now on.

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[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 35 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

It's not like X11 will disappear immediately after that. People who need it just have to switch from Gnome to a cooler window manager 🤷

It's really not a big deal.

From my experience, I guesstimate X11 will be around for another 20 years after that and maybe some hillbilly will even make a Gnome fork that still supports X11. Then there will be X12 one day 😆

[–] JadedBlueEyes@programming.dev 14 points 3 days ago

Wayland is basically X12 in many ways

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

switch from Gnome to a cooler window manager 🤷

I think that's easier for us to say, who actually do use something cooler. But for those whose workflow is messed up by this, I understand why they're upset. But yeah, it's time to move into the future, for real. High time.

[–] chortle_tortle@mander.xyz 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You'd think they would be used to it since every update ruins their workflow too.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

What? The last major change to the gnome workflow was going from vertical to horizontal workspaces, and that was several years ago.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

going from vertical to horizontal workspaces

Do you mean vice versa? Or did they go back to horizontal again? 😅

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They were vertical during all of Gnome 3, then changed to horizontal.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Oh wow, so they did. I have missed that 😅 I've been using i3 for like the last 10–15 years. Gnome being back to horizontal workspaces again like in GNOME 2 is wild to me. It's a great change!

[–] chortle_tortle@mander.xyz 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Mostly just trash talking how so much basic functionality is in add-ons that break frequently with updates.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

You can disable version checking and have them run if you want to, although that's probably not advisable.

[–] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

Wait, does that mean xmonad will get to live a tiny bit longer?