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Bill Gates and Linus Torvalds have apparently never met in person before, despite their pseudo-rivalry.

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[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I remember that IBM was famously missing the trend in the late 80s/90s and couldn't understand why regular consumers would ever want to buy a PC. It's why they gave the PC clone market away, never seriously approached their OS/2 thing, and never really marketed directly to anybody except businesses.

Microsoft really pushed the idea that regular people needed a home PC which laid the foundation for so many people already having the hardware in place to jump on the internet as soon as it became accessible.

For a brief moment it looked like a toss up between Microsoft IIS webservers serving up .asp files (or coldfusion .cf - RIP) vs Apache pushing CGI but in the end the Linux solution was more baked and flexible when it was time to launch and scale an internet startup in that era.

Somebody else would have done what Microsoft did for sure, had they not been there, and I suppose we could be paying AT&T for Unix licenses these days too. But yeah, ultimately both Gates and Torvalds were right in terms of operating systems and well timed.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

If Microsoft hadn't been around Apple would have probably defined the early PC era. The Apple II was released in 1977, 4 years before IBM decided to enter the home market with the PC.

Or Commodore might have been the one to dominate. They sold about 5 million Amigas.

Or it could have been NeXT after Jobs was forced out of Apple and started a new computer business.

The winner turned out to be Microsoft, but desktop computers were well on their way to being a standard thing long before Microsoft / IBM got into the market.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ColdFusion

I was there, 3,000 years ago

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

There are at least 2 of us! I think it was widely reported that the downfall of MySpace was at least partially linked to their use Coldfusion. When they needed to scale and adapt it just wasn't ready.