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[–] JRaccoon@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I don't get what you mean by "and no one figured that out yet." As you said yourself, no one knows what happened yet. Pretty much all we have at this point are the videos, and all we can confirm from them is a rough flight path of the plane and that the landing gear remained down after what appeared to be a normal takeoff. I haven't seen any footage that clearly shows the state of the flaps with any certainty, but please correct me if I've missed something.

In my mind, that leaves us with three possible scenarios:

  • Pilot error (retracting the flaps instead of the landing gear)
  • Dual engine failure at the critical moment (there's no evidence of this in the videos, but also nothing ruling it out)
  • Something else (we don't know what we don't know)

From the two scenarios (pilot error, engine failure) that fit the flight path from the videos, the option one seems more plausible to me. But that’s just my armchair opinion, it doesn't mean anything. All we can really do is wait for the investigation and the preliminary report.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I don't get what you mean by "and no one figured that out yet."

I mean there's many experts watching the same footage who are not making an assertion that the pilots got confused about the landing gear and the flaps.

[–] JRaccoon@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

They're also not saying it couldn't have happened, are they? They're waiting for investigators to gather all the facts before making any statements, just like they should.

Meanwhile, we here on the internet are just speculating based on the limited information available (basically just the video footage). Based on the current information we have, my opinion is that pilot error is the most likely cause.

You're free to disagree about the likelihood of different scenarios, but right now we have no evidence that makes the theory of the pilots accidentally retracting the flaps instead of the gear impossible or "absurd." It's really counterproductive to start ruling out scenarios without concrete proof.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 21 hours ago

It's really counter-productive to play armchair air crash investigator.