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[–] gigachad@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago (4 children)

People are not able to chose between black and white anymore. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" is what they chose. If Israel is bad, Iran must be good. Poor, poor Iran, just wanted to play a bit with nuclear bombs. The decade long calls of destruction of the Israeli state was just them saying "we want to be left alone"! The only thing that confuses them is Iran being one of the main providers of the Russian war. But soon they will side with Russia to be against "the imperialist west". One side or the other, they don't know any middle ground.

Now let the downvotes come my authoritarian tankies

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 11 points 2 days ago

Iran used to be best friends with Israel. When the Shah a dictator ruled Iran, that was installed after the US couped the democratically elected president. Subsequently that dictator received training for his armed forces and intelligence as well as weapons from Israel. Israel helped the Shah torture, murder and dissappear tens of thousands of people.

Of course after the revolution Iran became hostile to the country that built up the Gestapo in their country. Then the US encouraged Saddam Hussein to invade Iran, killing a million Iranians in the following 8 years.

Iran is right to feel threatened by the US and Israel, since these two threaten Iran since four decades. Still Iran was willing to negotiate and the JCPOA was achieved under Obamas presidency, but subsequently destroyed by Trump to the cheers of Israel. Israel wants Iran to be annihilated since many years, but it wants the US to do the bidding. Still Iran was in negotiations with the US again, that Israel worked hard to sabotage.

It is perfectly rational for Iran to want to develop a nuclear weapon now, as any attempt at diplomacy was met with attacks by Israel.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If Israel is bad, Iran must be good

Yeah this is driving me nuts too. In particular how people start viewing Hamas as some sort of freedom fighters just because evil Israel is kicking their ass. It's just shit people all around yet nothing can change cause it's a team game not a truth or justice one.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

fwiw, I agree with what you wrote here. My intention was not to imply "Iran good, Israel bad," though judging by the upvotes it seems like I've tapped into that part of lemmy. My reductive quip still describes their motivation though.

[–] Anonymaus@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Who said anything about iran being good as you put it, have you even read through this thread