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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I did see one person commenting on the other video that they could see the flaps were in the wrong position. And it is conspicuous that the landing gear was not retracted - though could that be because the pilots realized they were in trouble and would need to attempt a crash landing, or were too busy with whatever else had gone wrong?

Are the 787's controls arranged in such a way that you could accidentally retract the flaps instead of the landing gear?

[–] JRaccoon@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Are the 787's controls arranged in such a way that you could accidentally retract the flaps instead of the landing gear?

Not in a sense that someone could just grab the wrong lever in the dark for example. The levers are in different parts of the cockpit and also shaped very differently. But we humans can do all kinds of weird mistakes that are hard to explain. Almost everyone has experienced this sometimes. Think something like searching for you phone while it's in your hand. Afterwards it's very hard to explain why would anyone do such a silly mistake but it still happened. This would be similar.

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The plane was in takeoff config: https://imgur.com/a/JzS3ro9

According to type rated pilots the 787 doesn’t allow you to retract flaps immediately in critical flight after takeoff.

[–] JRaccoon@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago

According to type rated pilots the 787 doesn’t allow you to retract flaps immediately in critical flight after takeoff.

That's interesting. Do you have the source for that? I wasn't able to find a definitive answer with google

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

I think the simplest explanation, and the most likely one, is the pilots were too busy dealing with whatever shit was hitting the fan to raise the landing gear.

And, in my view, that's a loss of engine power for whatever reason, possibly bad fuel.